The best solution imho, but trust the older administrative types to not
implement such a policy because it will affect them the most, just like
in our political scene. Well we can hope though !


On 9 February 2014 13:57, Aaron T. Dossey <bugoc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rather than a rather arbritrary age-based cutoff, why not allow attrition
> based on lack of productivity?  ie: if a department thinks they can get a
> better crop of faculty, why not allow them to let some go in favor of
> departmental improvement?  (yes, this would probably mean an end to, or at
> least a substantial modification of, tenure).
>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/National-Postdoc-Union/275402225908673
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2014 1:46 PM, Judith S. Weis wrote:
>
>> Since women generally live longer than men, what reason, aside from
>> discrimination, does China have for requiring them to retire 5 years
>> earlier?
>>
>>
>>
>>  In China academics (at least ecologists) have a mandatory retirement
>>> age of 60 for men (can be extended to 65 if you're actively advising
>>> graduate students), and 55 for women. When I asked a female faculty
>>> member about that in a visit to China 2 years ago, she seemed very
>>> accepting of the idea that opportunities had to be opened for young
>>> scientists.
>>>
>>> My department is running a search for 2-3 new faculty members this
>>> semester, and advertised an open-rank open-area opportunity. 650
>>> applied (I reviewed 250 applications), and we're interviewing 6. One
>>> is an ecologist. I know of a search for a theoretical ecology
>>> position this spring at another university, and I think about 55
>>> applied. I may put together an article about these searches later
>>> this spring.
>>>
>>> David Inouye
>>>
>>> At 10:20 AM 2/9/2014, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>      I've already received many, many replies in the first 48 hours
>>>> since I posted my request.  I've heard from more people than I can
>>>> easily count--recent Ph.D.s, graduate students, even undergraduates
>>>> with difficult stories of hard work, perseverance, and increasing
>>>> despair that they will ever find work in the disciplines they've
>>>> trained for.     I will do my best to respond to everyone who's
>>>> contacted me; if you haven't heard from me yet, it's only because
>>>> there are so many others who have also poured out their fears and
>>>> their frustrations.  There are a great many people in our field who
>>>> have found their calling, earned their degree, and now can find no
>>>> way to support themselves--the invisible and disregarded of modern
>>>> academia.     Because many of you have expressed concerns about
>>>> privacy, let me say that I won't share names, affiliations or any
>>>> other identifying details unless the individuals involved grant
>>>> their permission.  If you or a friend have been hesitating out of
>>>> personal concerns, please know that I consider every contact a
>>>> confidence, and I don't intend to break that
>>>> trust.
>>>> - J. A.
>>>> John A. <omnipithe...@yahoo.com
>>>>
>>>
>
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