I’ve never run into a submission process that is THAT picky - with checkboxes 
for taxa or a need for Windows 7.  And I’ve certainly never seen one that 
doesn’t let you save!
Such egregious problems should certainly be fixed.

The issue I’ve run into most frequently is image formatting.  For instance, 
sometimes the image is fine in itself, but the automatic system obscures part 
of it with the line numbers or header when it creates the PDF, so you have to 
give the image bizarrely large borders (something the submission instructions 
don’t warn you about).  A few years ago I encountered one that requested images 
of a particular size in inches - even though digital images can be resized, so 
what you want is a particular resolution.
Also, many still request fax numbers as well as email and mailing addresses, 
even though I’ve never been faxed anything from a journal.  But most will still 
accept the paper if one leaves that box blank.

Those are mainly small annoyances, though.  Journals that are part of a larger 
“family” (like Ecology, Ecological Monographs, and the other ESA published 
journals) tend to have a fairly streamlined and consistent submission process.  
It may well be that smaller journals have fewer staff and resources to deal 
with issues like updating their submission websites.  If it is one that has 
been around a while (especially if it still has print versions) I wouldn’t 
worry too much about a paper vanishing - something like JSTOR would probably 
pick it up.  However, if it ENTIRELY online and has a terrible website…it 
certainly wouldn’t give a prospective author confidence.

Emily Moran
UC Merced

On Jul 22, 2015, at 10:20 PM, David Duffy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I have noticed (albeit a small sample size) recently that several on-line 
journals have rigid, time consuming and picky processes for paper submission. 
To submit a paper, one is required to format for publication in an 
idiosyncratic style, one that is not necessarily shared by other journals. This 
would be fine after acceptance but it is a tremendous waste of time beforehand. 
Second the submitting formats are rigid. If one can't give the desired 
responses one can't move forward. One admission process required taxon 
identification but didn't include the avian order I was concerned with. Another 
placed Hawaii in Polynesia, not the US. There may be cogent arguments for this 
but a journal submission should not be an exercise in geopolitical tiddlywinks. 
 Several require email addresses for all authors, not so subtly discriminating 
against folks in developing countries that might not have easy or stable access 
to the Internet. Others require one to sign off concerning a wide range of 
compliance and conflict of interest concerns that may or may not apply. Some 
submission processes seem to work only with specific browsers but the editors 
either don't know this or don't see it necessary to tell one that they are 
still locked into Windows 7. Finally some allow you to save and return but 
others don't. The last is especially sadistic.

How much of this information is truly necessary when deciding whether to send a 
paper out for review, assuming sending out for reviewing really happens?

An ethical approach for electronic journal submission would be to allow 
submissions in some simplified format: title, abstract, introduction, methods, 
results, discussion, conclusion, acknowledgments, literature cited. If the 
paper is accepted, bring on the compliance and conflict of interest assurances, 
literature (or reference) cited formats,  unit abbreviations, use of 
parentheses and so on. If all these data are truly necessary up front, perhaps 
a measure of an on-line journal's quality might be whether it actually knows 
how to handle things on-line. If not, in ten years, one's paper may well vanish 
into the cloud along with the journal.

I would welcome replies from journal editors if they feel I am being unfair.

--
David Duffy
戴大偉 (Dài Dàwěi)
Pacific Cooperative Studies Unit
Botany
University of Hawaii
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