Hi all,

Many scientists (especially younger ones) are NOT paid by 'home
institutions' (<- this term is also pretty much a mythical beast for many
younger scientists). Many work contract-to-contract, or grant-to-grant.
Many work in-between regardless. However, they are all asked to review
regardless. I acknowledge that some journals do publish free of charge. But
those where authors pay a fee should offer some sort of review fee. It
would certainly help boost the likelihood that journals will get more
reviews in faster - especially if they offer 4 or 5 people the chance to
review, and those that accept first get the fees.

Cheers,

Andrew

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On 18 February 2016 at 05:16, Ganter, Philip <[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem is not whether or not we are being paid.  We are paid by our
> home institutions.  The problem is the cost of getting to publications
> based on research funded by public money.  That has been and continues to
> be the root problem, compounded by the publish-or-perish, paper-counting
> mentality and the rise of predatory “open-source” publishers.
>
> Just this week, I have visited the websites of major scientific publishers
> who all wanted over $35 for access to a single article.  Preposterous (I am
> reminded at the silly prices that keep most “minibar” items firmly in the
> hotel room refrigerator in the US, while in South America, they are priced
> reasonably and actually are a convenience).  But I could often “rent”
> temporary access for a few dollars.  Hmmmmm.
>
> The major US academic funding agencies need to learn a lesson from Apple.
> They need to flex their power and establish an iTunes for academic
> publishing where a dollar gets you the publication you want.  The
> publishers can be paid royalties from this.  With a bit of quality control
> over which publications are part of the scheme and some peer pressure to
> not submit manuscripts to publishers not participating in the scheme, we
> can resolve many of the issues surrounding access to science (for that is
> what we are, ultimately, discussing).
>
> Phil Ganter
> Biological Sciences
> Tennessee State University
> Nashville, TN
>
> From: "Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news" <
> [email protected]> on behalf of Steve Young <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Steve Young <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 7:57 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] let's go corporate, publishing companies have!
>
> And then there is the argument that some just enjoy reviewing papers – pro
> bono or payment is not something they consider. They like the opportunity
> to be involved in cutting edge science albeit the very periphery, before it
> is widely distributed. Interesting how this relates somewhat to the debate
> about paying college athletes (
> http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/why-ncaa-athletes-shouldnt-be-paid
> ).
>
> Steve
>
>
> From: ECOLOG <[email protected]> on behalf of David Duffy <
> [email protected]>
> Reply-To: David Duffy <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:02 PM
> To: ECOLOG <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] let's go corporate, publishing companies have!
>
>
> http://chronicle.com/article/Want-to-Change-Academic/134546?cid=trend_right_h
>
> "So why not try this: If academic work is to be commodified and turned
> into a source of profit for shareholders and for the 1 percent of the
> publishing world, then we should give up our archaic notions of unpaid
> craft labor and insist on professional compensation for our expertise, just
> as doctors, lawyers, and accountants do."
>
> --
> David Duffy
> 戴大偉 (Dài Dàwěi)
> Pacific Cooperative Studies Unit/Makamakaʻāinana
> Botany
> University of Hawaii/*Ke Kulanui o Hawaiʻi*
> 3190 Maile Way
> Honolulu Hawaii 96822 USA
> 1-808-956-8218
>

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