Pay "university" coaches what they pay postdocs and see how many still
do it "for the love of the game".
On 2/17/2016 3:55 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:
Apparently the enjoyment is not sufficient for the majority, because
here has a been a long discussion going on for several years about the
difficulty getting qualified reviewers. Then, over on the sports
side, a rapidly increasing number athletes in football are retiring
early (at least that was said on KC radio this week).
Having said that, I doubt paying reviewers would be much encouragement
for someone who is making over 70K.
I did not miss the point, I just think the point is losing relevance
in relation to the problem.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Steve Young <[email protected]> wrote:
You’re missing the point - athletes like to play sports and some
scientists like to review manuscripts. It is the enjoyment that drives
them, not the money.
Steve
On 2/17/16, 10:54 AM, "Malcolm McCallum"
<[email protected]> wrote:
paying reviewers is in no way related to paying athletes.
The athletes are largely student.
Most reviewers are not students.
However, one could argue that reviewing is part of a scientist's job.
Yet, its a part that most institutions provide no credit for.
ITs a really screwed up situation.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Steve Young <[email protected]> wrote:
And then there is the argument that some just enjoy reviewing papers –
pro
bono or payment is not something they consider. They like the
opportunity to
be involved in cutting edge science albeit the very periphery, before
it is
widely distributed. Interesting how this relates somewhat to the debate
about paying college athletes
(http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/why-ncaa-athletes-shouldnt-
be-paid).
Steve
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Subject: [ECOLOG-L] let's go corporate, publishing companies have!
http://chronicle.com/article/Want-to-Change-Academic/134546?cid=trend_rig
ht_h
"So why not try this: If academic work is to be commodified and turned
into
a source of profit for shareholders and for the 1 percent of the
publishing
world, then we should give up our archaic notions of unpaid craft labor
and
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