John Weir wrote:

> This looks like an interesting group and no doubt it will avail some good. But It is 
>also interesting in other ways. As I read on. My thoughts develope....I have made 
>interesting text BOLD in the letter. Text I think is important to look at. I am 
>wondering what others may think I look forward to hearing replies..
>
> >Hereby I present you an opportunity to become a member in a global network - called 
>Club Planet - of future
> >business leaders who are committed to the concept of SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.
>
> Oh yes looks good to me. I am all for sustainable development. (which word is most 
>important sustainable or development?)

I think they both should have equal emphasis. You can have both, if planned correctly 
and *done on a proper scale*, IMO. Development and continued economic survival are 
necessary in the formation of more sustainable approaches, also IMO. I know this will 
rub many here wrong, my views on this subject seemingly always do.

(I seem to be able to piss off both the environmentalist and the pure capitalist at 
the same time! But thats ok...)

I mean if the world economy collapses - for whatever reason - into a depression 
w/wars, famines and the like, how likely is sustainability to come out of that?

I understand your cyncism about the "partners" that are sponsoring this event, but 
sheesh you have already concluded this entire program is just more corporate/world 
bank BS "green wash", before it has even started, from a single introductory email! 
Track records of some of the sponsors are quite horrible, yes, but don't dismiss this 
effort out of hand just because of past failures, I would suggest.

BTB, I think your last quote is very interesting :

"I think it would be better to focus only on sustainable and avoid development. I 
don't think the earth can take much more human development in any form and still 
sustain human and many other types of life.."

I completely disagree with your point, but it is nonetheless a central key to one's 
approach to this perplexing scenario.

I don't believe you can have sustainability without (some and well planned) 
development. "Development" has brought us many things, good and bad. Lets preserve 
what "development" is good for, and modify how its done in the future for the benefit 
of the greater good (i..e the entire planet) not just a single species, a small 
minority of super rich countries and individuals, to work towards real sustainability.

Thanks for your stating "soapbox view", its helpful to hear out others perspectives in 
this regard... even if we don't all agree. I think the more we verbalize, and bounce 
our views and philosophies around we can sharpen, refine and adjust our own thought 
process.

Greg

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