>>...then we wouldn't have considered it Yeah, you likely would have since I don't know of too many other royalty free rtos' out there. Once the numbers were compared between proprietary and eCos the bean counters would have installed Linux for you. :-)
>>This isn't about blame or about which platform is better. I agree, and I don't want to turn this into a flame war. My point I tried to convey earlier is that hw and sw engineers need to tell proprietary software vendors they want Linux compatible tools so engineers can use the OS they 'choose'. This is the only way proprietary businesses will get the hint they need to produce apps for another OS. I'm not proposing they need to do a full Linux port, just make it work in a emulator under Linux the same as eCos works in an emulator under Windows. eCos has met everyone halfway, asking nothing in return. So instead of asking eCos to bend even more (for no reward), how about we ask those that are getting paid handsomely for their tools to simply meet eCos in the middle? ************************* OMG - I AM A GENIUS ************************* I have even a better idea. How about we Linux folks port the tools and what not to Windows for Sourceware. But instead of making it freely available, Sourceware gets to charge per seat plus support just as other Windows only tool vendors do? Pay for Windows native tools or you can get the same apps for nothing if you use Linux/Cygwin. Need that Windows nooker, pay up sucka! Everyone have a good night, I'm outa here till tomorrow. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Malcolmson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 13:26 To: Kevin Wilson Cc: eCos Discussion Subject: Re: [ECOS] eCos on Windows without Cygwin I consider the company I work for to be reasonably Linux friendly, but if eCos couldn't also be developed on Windows then we wouldn't have considered it. For all that people are saying in this thread about how awful Windows is, it is the platform of most developers and supported by most tools. If a company asks here whether Windows is a first class development platform for eCos, and they are told to go and complain to their other vendors about not supporting Linux, then they will take that as a no. This isn't about blame or about which platform is better. Tom. Kevin Wilson wrote: Sorry, this might appear to be a little harsh but posts that lay blame in the incorrect camp drive me nuts! Cygwin is hampering eCos Not really. What other royalty free RTOS is available for zero cost that you can develop on both Linux and Windows? Your *real* problem isn't with eCos or cygwin, it is with the other MS only tools you are forced to use that prevent you from using eCos as it was intended. You should be asking the makers of those other tools to go at least as far as eCos and work with the Wine emulator. w/FPGA development thrown in, one can easily be locked into M$. This is where all of you hardware gurus can bark at the companies and demand native Linux tools or at least those compatible with Wine but *you* have to speak up! Ask the companies that you are paying thousands per seat to meet your needs not the people who charge you nothing and are already bending over backwards. I don't recall names but I thought I had seen some blurbs about fpga designers coming out for Linux on Linux Electrons' news site. Search the archives and you should find the articles. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Øyvind Harboe Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 08:25 To: ?yvind Harboe; eCos Discussion Subject: Re: [ECOS] eCos on Windows without Cygwin On 3/1/07, Andrew Lunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As far as I know, MinGW binaries of GCC toolchains + eCos tools is the most tantalizing prospect. I've little interesting in using eCos on M$ platforms, so i don't follow the discussion in too much depth, so take all my comments with a pinch of salt. Thanks for the feedback! I wish Linux was the standard development platform(I certainly would have preferred it), but alas e.g. w/FPGA development thrown in, one can easily be locked into M$. -- Before posting, please read the FAQ: http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom/ecos and search the list archive: http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss
