Doing the append manually is always going to be faster, the trade off is
maintainability.

-stephan



                                                                                       
                           
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Where I work, there's programmers and database people.  The Navy is not
blessed with an abundance of these minimum wage "page designers."  Us java
programmers have to do it all.  For situations like ours, having a tool
that
helps in the creation of complex HTML documents is a good thing, so ECS
definately has it's uses.

What I want to know is how is ECS in terms of performance vs creating a
StringBuffer and doing appends manually?

Mike


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From: "Mark Mynsted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: My ECS Tutorial


> The point is that you want to allow anyone the ability to easily edit the
> HTML code...designers, idiots, engineers, everyone. If you code
everything
> in ECS, the only people that can edit the HTML output are the engineers.

I personally, do not want idiots, or everyone editing my servlet source
code.

>>> Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/2/2000 3:50:54 PM >>>
on 10/2/2000 1:34 PM, "Matt MacGillivray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would also like to know the disadvantages to using ECS with servlets as
> opposed to those other technologies you mentioned.  I've been developing
> large scale servlet applications using ECS as the foundation, and would
like
> to know what lead you to such a conclusion.

Think about it for like 2 seconds:

How about the fact that no one other than an engineer can edit/modify the
HTML output?

The point is that you want to allow anyone the ability to easily edit the
HTML code...designers, idiots, engineers, everyone. If you code everything
in ECS, the only people that can edit the HTML output are the engineers.

Again, ECS is still useful in places and is still the core of how Turbine
works, but the job of editing HTML is not the engineers, it is the
designers.

You should download the TDK and check it out...that is a 5 minute free
guide
to showing you the power that I'm talking about...

<http://java.apache.org/turbine/tdk/>

-jon



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