Wow.. It is really interesting how this thread spun out of the "My ECS
Tutorial". As for the tutorial, I only scanned it, but I found it an easy
read and good use of example code. However, the "real problem" is not so
much with coding, but solving the problem domain in an extensible and
maintainable manner (hence why this thread spun the way it did :)..
Great points about MVC and separation of content.
Great comment "I'm only trying to help you not make the same mistakes I did
by helping provide solutions that are based on learning from previous
mistakes.".. That is why the web is where it is today! However, sometimes
the knowledge is won not in knowing the end result, but stumbling along the
way. I think we'll catch up to where the Apache dudes are today.. but when
we do get there, you guys will be on to the next generation.. and thankfully
so!
Of course, that is just my opinion.
mlc
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:26 PM
To: ECS
Subject: Re: My ECS Tutorial
on 10/2/2000 8:04 PM, "Michael P. McCutcheon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where I work, there's programmers and database people. The Navy is not
> blessed with an abundance of these minimum wage "page designers." Us java
> programmers have to do it all. For situations like ours, having a tool
that
> helps in the creation of complex HTML documents is a good thing, so ECS
> definately has it's uses.
Sigh, you still don't get it. That has nothing to do with it...
Please, go and spend some time with the TDK and then come back and tell me
that simply editing a WebMacro template file and having a nice MVC
abstraction is harder or worse or harder to maintain than coding your entire
web application in ECS.
<http://java.apache.org/turbine/tdk/>
I used to be in your shoes. I learned the hard way. I'm only trying to help
you not make the same mistakes I did by helping provide solutions that are
based on learning from previous mistakes.
Of course, it is always up to you to learn the hard way. Who am I to tell
you any differently or try to help you out. I will just keep plodding along
helping create the tools that you might eventually figure out that you
should be using. :-)
thanks,
-jon
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