We have a lot of experienced EDI people here. Who has ever seen anyone ever
use the TA1?
I've probably been at 30-40 Fortune 500 sites over the last five years and
I've never seen anyone use it.
Jim Divoky
EC Solutions
----- Original Message -----
From: William J. Kammerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Using X12 TA1
> Patricia Markey, of HICOR (USA) Corporation, asks:
>
> Does anyone have a feeling for how many companies use the X12
> TA1 interchange level acknowledgment? Who typically uses it
> and when? When one is received what does one usually do with it?
>
> Poor, dear Pat. She may as well be asking whether you put the bridle on
> before the harness. In this turbo-charged internet e-conomy, we
> shouldn't really be worrying about the EDI flotsam of a bygone era, with
> its cryptic codes and expensive VANs.
>
> I would no sooner own up to knowing anything about this kind of EDI
> stuff than to question dialectic materialism, or to admit belief in the
> Immaculate Conception, in Honneker's East Germany. But considering that
> FORESIGHT's TradeSite/XML B2B Commerce Server does accommodate legacy
> EDI, I figured that I'd be able to find someone around the office who
> would know what the heck Pat is talking about. I asked ol' Abe about
> the TA1. He sidled up, flashed his toothless grin, and proceeded to tell
> me about the old days of EDI.
>
> Abe wasn't able to tell me exactly how many companies use the TA1
> Interchange Acknowledgment segment; I was expecting an answer like
> "12498, give or take a few." But he did say it wasn't used much. Abe
> said the TA1 is packaged within an ISA-IEA to acknowledge to a trading
> partner that an interchange was received from him; it says nothing
> about the syntactical correctness of the interchange (other than the ISA
> and IEA themselves) - merely that it was received. It's not used that
> often because the 997 Functional Acknowledgment is usually turned around
> quickly enough. Besides, the 997 response obviously implies the
> interchange containing the functional group being acknowledged was
> received.
>
> Ol' Abe did take issue with Kelly Babcock's comment on the TA1. She
> said "the TA1 segment is most commonly used between VANs at the mailbag
> level enveloping to help separate the mailbag enveloping from the
> interchanges inside the mailbag." Abe thinks she's confusing the TA1
> with the ANSI X12 12.56 TA3 mailbag and Interchange Delivery Notice
> segment, which is used by VANs to report on the status of interchanges
> as they hop from VAN to VAN.
>
> To see how many companies require the TA1 acknowledgment, just look at
> their ISA Interchange headers: the TA1 is returned only if the ISA14
> (D.E. I13) Acknowledgment Requested indicator is 1. This indicator is
> independent of, and has nothing to do with, whether 997s are returned;
> use of 997s is usually up to a trading partner agreement or convention.
> There are a few odd situations where the TA1 is the mandated form of
> interchange acknowledgment, rather than relying on the 997 to deduce
> whether an interchange was received.
>
> William J. Kammerer
> FORESIGHT Corp.
> 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> (614) 791-1600
>
> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
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