I wish I was mistaken - maybe it is a GIS thing and not an X12 thing, but on our 
outbound documents the release character of "?" is inserted in the data stream before 
the :, which for one TP is the subelement separator.  Not sure which translator they 
are using, but they don't have a problem processing our 810.

The release character is causing a problem with some of our inbound FAs.  One TP 
(which will remain nameless) is sending a non-printing char as the seg terminator and 
refuses to change it.  When I pull off the VAN via FTP it shows in my data as a "?" 
which is causing problems...  I have do execute a UNIX tr script to change it to 
something I can process.  It does not use the "?" as the segment terminator because it 
is expecting "?" as the release character.

I am using GIS 3.0, maybe this is something that is addressed in GIS 3.1.

Tom




>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/27/04 01:57PM >>>
Venkat,

Tom is either mistaken in his description of what he is using the ? for, or
he's referring to some standard other than ASC X12.  X12 has no release
character.

You need to either eliminate the colon in your data or chose a different
sub-element separator.  I suggest using an ANSI-legal character that is less
likely to appear in your text.  For example: we use the carat (^) for
elements, vertical bar (|) for sub-elements, and tilde (~) for segments.  We
have never had issues with these.

Art Douglas
Manager, eCommerce Systems
PaperPak
545 Terrace Drive
San Dimas, CA 91773
909.971.5025


-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Kanneboina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Release character


Tom,

If  we want to send "?" as the release character on
outbound. Do we need to specify it ?

Thanks
Venkat

--- Thomas Behr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We use the "?" for the release character (X12
> v4010).  It seems to be a default.  We can change it
> on outbound transactions and use it for one of our
> TPs, and it just works on inbound transactions,
> although I don't know where it is specified...
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> >>> "Bill Chessman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 09/27/04 01:24PM >>>
> Venkat,
> 
> X12's syntax does not include the concept of the
> release character (as seen in ISO9735-based
> standards such as EDIFACT).  Your best bet is to
> change the sub-element separator to some other
> character that is not used in the data.
> 
> Best regards,
> Bill Chessman
> Inovis(tm)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Venkat Kanneboina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: [EDI-L] Release character
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Is there a way to sepcify a release character in X12
> EDI messages. Assume that we are using a colon as
> the
> sub-element separator. And one of our address data
> contains a colon.  How can we successfully pass this
> data  using the X12 EDI message.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Venkat
> 
> 
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