William, Even more important than the UBL schema themselves is their reliance on open standards and their underlying standards based library of ISO 15000-5 Business Information Entities. Also supporting the UBL BIEs and ready for prime time consumption is the UN/CEFACT library of context neutral core components and soon to be released expanded library of business information entities. UBL's XML Schema Naming and Design Rules fully support ISO 15000-5/11179. The main difference between the UBL and UN/CEFACT approaches and CICA is that whereas on the one hand CICA is proprietary, UBL and UN/CEFACT are using open standards to develop their process models, libraries, and XML schema. Whereas CICA requires the use of the X12 Black Box, UBL and UN/CEFACT schemas can be created by anyone using any tool. Whereas CICA is targeting North America, UBL and UN/CEFACT are targeting the rest of the world and are already experiencing adoption by public and private sector interests.
Mark Mark R. Crawford Senior Research Fellow - LMI XML Lead W3C Advisory Committee, OASIS, RosettaNet Representative Vice Chair - OASIS UBL TC Chair - UN/CEFACT XML Syntax Working Group Editor - UN/CEFACT Core Components LMI Government Consulting 2000 Corporate Ridge McLean, VA 22102-7805 703.917.7177 Phone 703.655.4810 Wireless The opportunity to make a difference has never been greater. www.lmi.org > -----Original Message----- > From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:21 PM > To: EDI-L Mailing List > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 CICA: Is it the future? Does anyone > really "mod el"? > > > Thanks. I'm not gonna live forever. So I guess you're > saying that if a trading partner and I are willing to play > around with XML now, that I have nowhere to go for a usable > PO other than UBL. There's the notion of "time to market," > pal. Is the XML e-business standards ship done sailed as far > as X12 is concerned? > > I learned EDI by reading a couple PIDX and VICS books and > looking at their examples. I vaguely knew enough about the > structure of X12 long before I ever had to tackle X12.5 and > X12.6 which described the syntax using BNF. So I guess I > don't want to have to read X12.7 and "imagine" > what a PO would look like. I want an XML schema or example > now. Where are some examples - even if incomplete - of XML > messages based on CICA? > > Thanks in Advance. > > William J. Kammerer > Novannet, LLC. > Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA > +1 (614) 487-0320 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Rawlins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "EDI-L Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005 06:33 PM > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] X12 CICA: Is it the future? Does anyone > really "mod el"? > > > > At 05:42 PM 1/20/2005 -0500, William J. Kammerer wrote: > > >But are the "more definitive descriptions of CICA" available > for free? > > As noted, the reference model may be freely downloaded. > > >What am I to look for in the catalog at DISA? How much does it cost? > >Is this some not-ready-for-prime-time report that's being sold for an > >arm-and-a-leg? > > The approved X12.7 standard appears currently to only be available as > part > of 005020. I believe it may also be avaliable through other > channels. I'll post the details if I find out. > > >The UBL stuff (documentation and schemas) is available > >for *free* at the OASIS site. If I wanted to "do" a purchase order - > >today - in XML, assured that the model and schemas conform to ebXML > >CCTS > >[ISO 15000(-5)] and ISO 11179 , would I have any choice but to use > >OASIS' UBL? > > Sure you would have choices! You could create your own XML PO that > complied with those specs. But if you don't want to do that, I'm not > aware > at this point of any choices other than UBL. I'm sure UN/CEFACT, X12, > and > perhaps other bodies will be able to present you with other choices > eventually. > > Cheers, > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting > www.rawlinsecconsulting.com > Using XML with Legacy Business Applications (Addison-Wesley, 2003) > www.awprofessional.com/titles/0321154940 > > > > > . > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject > prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
