Rich, to add a bit more to William's query below, J&J is heavily involved with HIBCC and its eCommerce activities. I know that HIBCC established an XML Technical Committee a few years back, which has since been subsumed into its EDI Technical Committee and renamed the eCommerce Technical Committee. That committee did develop XML-based schema for various messages - ostensibly to harmonize with the HIBCC X12-based transaction sets for medical products supply chain electronic messaging. For a period of time I participated in the XML TC efforts and tried (without success) to encourage them to take a more structured and UML-based modeled approach to requirements analysis leading to a good data model and standardized messages. Unless something changed dramatically since that time, I am presuming that HIBCC's current XML-based messages are mirror images of the X12 transaction set implementation guides. Are these the XML messages/efforts you're referencing below. To my knowledge HIBCC has not actively engaged with OASIS, UN/CEFACT or W3C for any of the core components, ebXML specifications, or UBL efforts.....unless that effort is quite recent. OTH, perhaps J&J has directly engaged with these organizations due to it global marketplace. Rachel Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd. 39432 North Avenue Beach Park, IL 60099 Voice: 847-872-8070 Fax: 847-589-8081
_____ From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:24 AM To: EDI-L Mailing List Subject: [EDI-L] Does anybody use UBL, yet? Was "What's wrong with 'frames??" Rich "I Ride The Big Iron" Hurd sez: Our "UML core-componentized ISO 11179 XML based e-business standards" (yes, we have them too) have gone toes-up about once a month for the past year. Various and sundry known and unknown issues, with various and sundry root causes. The only ebxml core componentized ISO 11179 compliant messages I know about are those provided by UBL. UBL was only released (as a final version) last November. Johnson & Johnson surely hasn't implemented UBL for the past year, has it? Or are you just throwing around buzzwords, as I've been known to do in the past? In this case, I very specifically meant to differentiate UBL from OAGIS, CICA, Rosettanet and all the others with the very precise "core-componentized ISO 11179 compliant" - it wasn't just blather in this case! Rich, are you at liberty to explain more about the XML business messages (including the standard and message types) your company uses - whether UBL or otherwise? And by "XML business messages," I mean open standards-based interoperable *inter-company* messages (i.e., no need or desire to discuss proprietary intra-company formats or EAI technologies which are out of scope for this list anyway). William J. Kammerer Novannet Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hurd, Richard [SLCUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EDI-L Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 28 January, 2005 09:55 AM Subject: [EDI-L] OT: What's wrong with 'frames?? Our "UML core-componentized ISO 11179 XML based e-business standards" (yes, we have them too) have gone toes-up about once a month for the past year. Various and sundry known and unknown issues, with various and sundry root causes. Meanwhile, the mainframe systems just kind of grind away, delivering value (see http://tinyurl.com/4jlg9) and keeping the lights on while these young guys and gals "gussy up" their systems and play in their sandboxes. Sandboxes are for children. ... Rich "I Ride The Big Iron" Hurd Never trust a computer you can lift. . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
