If the FBI can pull the plug on a 170 million dollar project I would not rule out Ford having the same issues. It appears that much of the cost at Ford may have been for the Oracle software and the cost of integration which is not easy with the Oracle eCommerce gateway which is not very EDI friendly. Besides $220 million isn't what it used to be.
Regards, David Frenkel 612-237-1966 -----Original Message----- From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:34 AM To: EDI-L Listserv Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Another win for EDI I doubt seriously that a conversion "from EDI to EDIFACT and XML" would have cost "$220 MILLION." It sounds like this Everest was just warmed-over Covisint. And Covisint was just a still-born "auction" for squeezing suppliers, wasn't it? In June 2002, Bob Haugen, a respected Business Technology Consultant active in ebXML, wrote: Covisint, the auto supplier marketplace that may go under like all the rest, was initially the child of the US big 3 auto companies. They saw it as a tool for squeezing their suppliers more on price, and their suppliers correctly resisted. When Covisint was presented to the Japanese auto makers, a Nissan executive was scathingly critical. I paraphrase his statement, which I heard third-hand: "You are solving the wrong problem, and will do more harm than good. We spend years developing our relationships with our suppliers. We cherish those relationships. We have calculated that reliable delivery and quality are much more economically important than small price differences." An aside: you cannot convert from "from EDI to EDIFACT." Let's be precise: UN/EDIFACT *is* EDI. UN/EDIFACT is based on a traditional EDI syntax and is just the international alternative to the ANSI ASC X12 standards. UN/EDIFACT has an edge in the global economy, and many folks (e.g., GM and its suppliers) have successfully made the transition. No conversion of X12 to EDIFACT would cost (any single company) $220 million! William J. Kammerer Novannet Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Mehlhorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EDI-L Listserv" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 11 March, 2005 03:19 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Another win for EDI According to the Everest information I printed out, everything CPARS was doing was supposed to be moved to eVEREST. Ford was going to try to move from EDI to EDIFACT and XML. As far as the X12 documents, 820, 830, 850, and 860s. Dan Mehlhorn -----Original Message----- From: Todd LaBonte Does anyone know the specifications of this effort? What type of documents were to be exchanged with the supplier? what format? Todd LaBonte e-SupplyLink . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
