Look, I am moving to AS2 but there are problems with
doing so.  Sure, you reduce Van costs, but you also
increase complexity of your system doing point to
point.  Think about it, instead of dealing with one
communication node (the Van), you now have to deal
with many.

Previous to this, I have been using AS1 (SMTP)
for some time now.  You have to take into
consideration the extra mainentance time it might take
to keep AS2 running and if your trading partner has
the technical expertise to deal with problems on their
side.

So, yes, you save money on Van costs, but all
parameters need to be taken into consideration before
taking the leap to EDI-INT.

Thomas Seay

--- "Layevskiy, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> AS2. Only AS2! There was nothing wrong in using VAN
> services in the
> past. The time has changed and we have to change
> with the time:-)
> Current technology makes VAN services useless.
> Everybody should be able
> to connect directly with it's Trading Partners over
> the Internet.
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
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> Scott
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:11 AM
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> Subject: [EDI-L] Using VANs or AS2?
> 
>  
> 
> Hello All
> 
> I'm looking for input on your opinions and
> experiences in using VANs 
> and AS2. 
> 
> Why do you choose one over the other, or use both?
> And if you are 
> using both, how do you determine which customers /
> suppliers to put on 
> what transport?
> 
> And while I'm asking, how do you think the VANs will
> survive IF the 
> market moves away from the services the VANs
> provide?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your input.
> 
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--- "Layevskiy, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> AS2. Only AS2! There was nothing wrong in using VAN
> services in the
> past. The time has changed and we have to change
> with the time:-)
> Current technology makes VAN services useless.
> Everybody should be able
> to connect directly with it's Trading Partners over
> the Internet.
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Scott
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EDI-L] Using VANs or AS2?
> 
>  
> 
> Hello All
> 
> I'm looking for input on your opinions and
> experiences in using VANs 
> and AS2. 
> 
> Why do you choose one over the other, or use both?
> And if you are 
> using both, how do you determine which customers /
> suppliers to put on 
> what transport?
> 
> And while I'm asking, how do you think the VANs will
> survive IF the 
> market moves away from the services the VANs
> provide?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your input.
> 
> Scott Koegler
> Editor, eC-BP.org
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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invalidate all our policies that have been so successful even in the recent 
past, and that presumably have constituted the ideal response to a presumably 
unchanging and unchangeable human condition.  No wonder we are stupefied and 
confused-but our mistake is the same which many cultures have made before us, 
namely to force a rigid model upon a fluid reality.

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