I could not agree with you more, Art.  For all of you working (or need to 
start working) on 'Plan B' I believe the best place to start is the online 
want ads.  If you want to go out and find another EDI job always check out 
the career sites like www.dice.com.  Do a search on EDI and check out what 
the companies are looking for.  It also gets you familiar with some of the 
industry buzz words and new technologies you should be getting your head 
around.  Plus, it may even give you ideas for your current job.

I do not bellyache about companies that move their tech jobs off-shore. 
Company leaders are looking to make their companies money, not make us 
money.  If they feel they can add value by outsourcing EDI resources so be 
it.  We'll just need to change and adapt.  On the other hand, Vijay's 
initial e-mail speaks volumes.  No offense to Vijay (English isn't an easy 
language) but I had to read it 3 times before I could understand it.  If I 
were an employer I would most likely have my EDI people working with 
customers.  This is not always the case but in every EDI job I've worked 
in (Currently my Fifth) customer contact is important.  Unless a solid 
grasp of the language is there I feel that our value is shown every day.

Chris Hodges
EDI Coordinator
The Hillman Group
1.800.800.4900 x2118



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Karen,



You hit the nail on the head when you said, "The times they are 
a'changin'!
You also gave us a hint that you may not be a spring chicken!  Or do you
just like Bob Dylan?



The book, "Who moved my cheese?" is a must-read for IT folks of the 21st
century.  It talks about the attitudes that let people caught up in change
survive.  Fortunately for me, it is a short book with easy words, so I was
able to complete it before I forgot all that I had read.



It's easy to bellyache about off-shore folks taking our jobs, and it's 
easy
to build up myths about them that say they are not competent.  So what? 
They
have the contracts.  Besides, many folks in EDI are not competent.  Just
look at your trading partner list!



We need to make certain our management knows what we do, what we are doing
now, and how it impacts our employer for the good.  They need to realize
that we are not only mappers, we are also integrators.  The better we get 
at
integration, the faster we can implement new partners and processes, the
less they have to worry about us, the more we are a willing and competent
resource, the less they will think about outsourcing us.  We need to be
known all the way to the top of the firm, because the idea to outsource
rarely comes from the CIO.



And if we do all that, we still can be outsourced.



So, if you're smart, you will have a plan B and will be working on it 
right
now.



Nancy Dornan says, "Dig the well before you need the water."  She should
know.  Now you know, too.



Just my 20 paisa.



Art Douglas



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It's a real shame that folks call themselves consultants when they know 
the
name of a system..... Personally I thought consultant = proficient.   I 
have
worked in EDI for years, but would not consider myself a 'consultant',
because I still have much to learn.....   Is it just me, or... is it the
times?   They are a'changin!



Karen Brasier




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