Hmmm... interesting concept...   I just checked my 4010 standards and I am
unable to find anything to support you, Ron.. sorry.

But knowing UPS (I, deal with their 210s) I know that they drop the name
(N1) data after a very brief time to "save space on their system" (as it
was explained to me).  I, too, get N1 segments with "NA" and nothing else,
or no N1/N2/N3/N4 data for a shipment, especially if it's an adjustment
(one would think that UPS would know who they delivered a package to,
wouldn't you?)

Of all my other implementations I've seen over the past 14 yrs of working
with EDI, I can't recall an N2 without an N1 also being sent... but
that'll get you noplace in a hurry.. sorry.

Can you make the N1 optional in your translator?

Sorry I couldn't be of more help..

Good luck!
Richard

> Does anyone have a document the prove my claim that an N2  segment
> (Additional Name Information) must always come after an N1 segment
> (Party Identification).
>
> Specifically, we went live with UPS for EDI 214 and they send me,
> sometimes (actually, very rarely) an N2 segment that does not come
> after an N1.
>
> My EDI translator (Inovis TLE Unix) will give me a translation error.
>
> According to UPS, I am the first one to complain about this issue  with
> their EDI 214 data. They say that "N1" is optional, which, of  course
> it's optional, but it's not optional to have N2 without N1 in  my
> opinion.
>
> Ron Herrmann
> EDI Coordinator
> Brother International Corp.




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