Yes I agree that most all comments or notes in 855's don't make it past the EDI message.
But again you will need to confirm with EACH Trading Partner where they even want to include such a message in the 855. I'd bet you get a lot of 'not available' or 'not necessary'. And for those that already have established specs, good luck with getting them to update them... Ken [email protected] ________________________________ From: Brian Lehrhoff <[email protected]> To: Leah Halpin <[email protected]>; Ken Etter <[email protected]>; Jason McMahon <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 11:47:35 AM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack To take Leah's response one step further - just because the message is in the 855, don't expect any one to see it. In a lot of cases the MSG and NTE segments (or any other non-necessary to process segments) are dropped on the floor. You ~could~ stick it into an 864 or 824, but you'd be sending a lot of them. If you feel comfort from adding the message, do it. If you feel comfort from saying "but it was on the 855", do it. I just wonder if anyone will see it. Brian Lehrhoff, EA ([email protected]) Messaging Consultant 201-913-4506 Upgrade your Quickbooks for 20% off at http://ea.brianlehrhoff.com Circular 230 Notice is located at http://ea.brianlehrhoff.com/230notice.html ________________________________ From: Leah Halpin <[email protected]> To: Ken Etter <[email protected]>; Jason McMahon <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:58:26 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack The others are correct, if you want a legal opinion, ask a lawyer, if you want five legal opinions, ask five lawyers (or the same lawyer on five different days). EDI is supposed to be machine to machine. Machines don't understand "the dates are estimated, not realistic". Really, I'm not sure I do, either, perhaps your people meant "the dates are estimated, not actual"? You see, it's not only the fact of putting a human readable comment in an electronic document meant to be read and interpreted by machines, but, even further, if the machine at the other end can "pass" the text to somewhere that a human might read it, how then, will they interpret the data, and will they have the power or knowledge or interest to update/change their system to reflect this? Or will they just say, your shipment is late, if you do this again, we will stop buying from you. Also, think of this, if they can, and will, update their system manually, what are they supposed to update it to? Most likely the ERP has an "expected due date" field, but, I'm almost positive it doesn't have a "perhaps we'll get it by sometime around the X of the Y month or maybe not" field. Finally, why on earth aren't the dates actual? Why are you sending bad data? If your company can't make the date required, then it's time for your sales guys to find their tinkerbells and call their customer and make nice. That's what they get PAID for. Leah ________________________________ From: Ken Etter <[email protected]> To: Jason McMahon <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 1:23:18 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack Yes, this is usually a question for your Legal but also you will need to involve any trading Partner the 855 is being sent to. In most cases, the 855 specs are provided by your customer and they will need to indentify how they want to include any disclaimer in the 855. As Jason pointed out, this is a legal issue and actually should probably be a part of any contract between your company and the customer. Ken [email protected] ________________________________ From: Jason McMahon <[email protected]> To: Narayanan Bharadwaj <[email protected]>; edi list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 1:02:51 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack This may be a question for the legal department. I have only seen this language in the contracts themselves. However, such language could be used in the MSG segments if this becomes necessary. Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html> http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html http://gutausse.blogspot.com/ <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Narayanan Bharadwaj Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:49 PM To: edi list Subject: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack Hi all,just want to get your opinion on this.We are a distributor and have been using Po Ack (855) with our end customers for quite some time now.However, our business wants us to put a text message like "the dates are estimated, not realistic"...to avoid any legal binding. Just want to know if this is normal in EDI messages or if there could be any implications... Please share your commentsThanks ahead for your inputs. 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