Then I would recommend a time PST when most of us would be up and at work.
Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html <http://gutausse.blogspot.com> http://gutausse.blogspot.com <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person. _____ From: Leah Halpin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 4:11 PM To: Jason McMahon; Eric Linxwiler Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding postings.... Actually, this is an international group, I know of one member in the UK and one in Austrailia, so somebody's going to be losing sleep! Leah _____ From: Jason McMahon <[email protected]> To: Leah Halpin <[email protected]>; Eric Linxwiler <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 8:10:33 AM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding postings.... What I need to know are the time zones involved. I am EST, but I think some of you are PST. Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > [email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html <http://gutausse.blogspot.com> http://gutausse.blogspot.com <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b _____ From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Leah Halpin Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 11:29 PM To: Eric Linxwiler; Jason McMahon Cc: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding postings.... How nice of you. Who are you and whose phone number is this? Leah ________________________________ From: Eric Linxwiler <[email protected] <mailto:ealinx%40gmail.com> <mailto:ealinx%40gmail.com> > To: Jason McMahon <[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > Cc: Leah Halpin <[email protected] <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> >; [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 10:17:16 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding postings.... Ok then. All you guys need to do is schedule a call amongst yourselves and agree on a time. At the scheduled time: Dial in: 858.751.2626 Ext: 621 Code: 14000 # This is available on demand anytime you want it, no strings attached. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Jason McMahon <[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > wrote: That would be fine. > >Sincerely, > >Jason McMahon >8079 Village Drive >Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 >[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> >http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html >http://gutausse.blogspot.com >http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b > > ________________________________ >From:Eric Linxwiler [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:ealinx%40gmail.com> <mailto:ealinx%40gmail.com> ] >Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:46 PM >To: Jason McMahon >Cc: Leah Halpin; [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding postings.... > >I am happy to provide the group with a conference call bridge that you can use >anytime for an unlimited number of callers. There will never be any charge and >it will be accessible 24 / 7. Would you like me to arrange something for you to >use? >On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Jason McMahon <[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > wrote: > >I would rather have all this Brilliance in the form of a blog or website >with an index. There are some really good insights in these e-mails but who >is going to remember which e-mail contained what? LinkedIn will start a >discussion and everyone can leave comments. That too can be a lot of >reading if it generates a lot of discussion, but at least it is in one place >for all to read. The other form I have seen used are threads that start >with a question or comment and others add their comments underneath by >either addressing the original question/comment or responding to a response >. This is a nice tidy way to organize the discussion but you can end up >doing a lot of drilling down to get through them. > >Many of these e-mails I keep because I may have to use for the advice given >at some future date. Of course, I can always ask the question again and see >what the current thinking is, but that requires everyone to cover the topic >all over again. If it were deposited somewhere for me to look up that would >spear everyone else from having to join in. > >Sincerely, > >Jason McMahon > >8079 Village Drive > >Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 > ><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > [email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > >http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html > ><http://gutausse.blogspot.com> http://gutausse.blogspot.com > ><http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> >http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b > >_____ > >From: Leah Halpin [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> ] >Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:40 PM >To: Jason McMahon >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >Now there's an interesting idea. A conference call of all the folks on this >list, I wonder if a single phone number could contain all this brilliance? > >I vote we do this next Friday. > >Leah > >_____ > >From: Jason McMahon <[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > >To: Leah Halpin <[email protected] <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> > >Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 12:33:21 PM >Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >Perhaps a conference call on occasion might be warranted for those of us who >dont support emoticons. > >Sincerely, > >Jason McMahon > >8079 Village Drive > >Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 > ><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > [email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > >http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html > ><http://gutausse.blogspot.com> http://gutausse.blogspot.com > ><http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> >http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b > >_____ > >From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Leah >Halpin >Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:26 PM >To: Jason McMahon ; Art Douglas; Samantha Scott; Craig Dunham; edi list >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >OK, Jason. Your email reader apparently doesn't support emoticons. My reply >is >a tongue in cheek reference back to Samantha's post. > >I'm going to take this opportunity to point out that Samantha's comments >actually go both ways. We need to read with care as well as write with care. > >Leah > >________________________________ >From: Jason McMahon <[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> >> >To: Leah Halpin <[email protected] <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> <mailto:leahhalpin%40yahoo.com> >; Art >Douglas <[email protected] <mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> <mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> <mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> >; >Samantha Scott <[email protected] <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> >; >Craig Dunham <[email protected] <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> >>; >edi list <[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:40:10 PM >Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >However, agreeable or not, We can be civil and courteous. We dont need to >return the same unprofessionalism that we receive. And perhaps those on the >other end may learn from us as well. > >Sincerely, > >Jason McMahon > >8079 Village Drive > >Cincinnati , OH 45242-4315 > ><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > >[email protected] <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> <mailto:gutausse%40cinci.rr.com> > >http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html > ><http://gutausse.blogspot.com> http://gutausse.blogspot.com > ><http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> >http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b > >_____ > >From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> >[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf >Of Leah >Halpin >Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:25 PM >To: Art Douglas; Samantha Scott; Craig Dunham; edi list >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >I have taken to occasionally amusing myself by replying with "helpful" >corrections to postings sent to me. Never heard a word back, but I'm holding >my >breath For those of you whose mail readers don't support emoticons, the >preceding is a smiley face holding up an open hand. > >I agree with Samantha's points, they are very true regarding email >communication. I agree with Craig that it is extremely frustrating dealing >with >discourteous and unprofessional recruiters. I agree with Art that said >recruiters/HR people are, well, what they are. > >Oh my, I guess I'll quit while I'm being agreeable. > >Leah > >________________________________ >From: Art Douglas <[email protected] <mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> <mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> <mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> ><mailto:adouglasedi%40gmail.com> > >To: Samantha Scott <[email protected] <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> ><mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> >>; Craig Dunham ><[email protected] <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> ><mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> >; edi list ><[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ><mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:00:27 PM >Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >Thank you, Samantha. <wink, wink> > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ><mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> >[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ><mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf >Of >Samantha Scott >Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:43 AM >To: Craig Dunham; edi list >Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <MISC> - Regarding <JOBS> postings.... > >That is a very good point and a lesson to remember for all of us. Common >courtesy tends to get lost in these days of impersonal, long distance >communication. We forget that we are missing the eye contact and the >physical hand off and other non-verbal clues that we rely on for our >messages and actions to be properly understood. The smile, the wink that >indicates humor as well as the earnestness of a person's countenance that >dispels levity (or should). > >Like those who are deprived of a physical sense learn to get along by >overcompensating with their other sense tools we should all make an effort >to fill in the gaps with or written (email) correspondence to compensate for >the non-verbal communication layer that is missing. > >In other words...say thank you when someone sends you something. Like >grandma's presents that arrive in the mail...even if you didn't want it you >had best take the time to say thank you. It is the thought, as evidenced by >the action, that counts. > >On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Craig Dunham ><[email protected] <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> <mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> ><mailto:craig.e.dunham%40gmail.com> >wrote: > >> >> >> I'd like to ask a favor of all of the recruiters and others on the list >> that post jobs to do something for me and, really, for all of the list >> members and anybody that contacts them regarding the offered position. >> >> When somebody takes the time from their day to inquire further about the >> position being offered ... >> >> <OR> >> >> When somebody earnestly applies for said position - contacting you via >> e-mail, sending you their résumé, their history, their contact information >> and any/all other information that may be deemed appropriate to send... >> >> ... could you (Mr. or Ms. Recruiter, HR Manager, EDI professional, etc.) >do >> them the courtesy of at least ACKNOWLEDGING what they have done...? Could >> you at least have the common & professional courtesy to say "Thank you for >> your interest in said position, it has been filled" or "thank you for your >> interest in said position, we will review your submission and contact you >> later, if needed" or - well - SOMETHING - to let us KNOW what is going >> on...? Instead of just leaving us out here in a void of not-knowing a >> thing...? >> >> It would be a professional step in your dealings with anybody - everybody >- >> on this list and in other places where you may advertise, offer, submit, >> place and present the job opportunity (whether temporary, contract or >> permanent). >> >> Sorry to put this out there, but I had to vent. I (for one) am tired of >> contacting somebody about something they are offering and to be so rudely >> ignored. >> >> Yes, I know that you may receive dozens - hundreds - THOUSANDS - of >> applications and résumés each and ever time you post a job. But for crying >> out loud - as a professional courtesy - as a COMMON COURTESY - let the >> person know - even with a simple form letter - let them know that at least >> you received their information. >> >> It would be appreciated. Thank you. >> >> Craig Dunham >> Bear Necessities Computing >> EDI Sherpa >> Author/blogger >> RetailEDI.com >> EDITalk.com >> >> PS - yes, I realize that this may make me "persona non-grata" in your >eyes, >> but still. It had to be said. >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >------------------------------------ > >... >Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: ><SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > >Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> >IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! 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