No one has requested an Alpine yet, they've all been for communication. But if 
anyone gets the idea it will probably fall on me to install, sync it to their 
bluetooth phone, program their favorite stations, and upload their MP3s. 

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From: "Leah Halpin" <[email protected]> 
To: "Travis Truax" <[email protected]>, "Michael Mattias/LS" 
<[email protected]> 
Cc: "EDI-L" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:14:43 AM 
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 856 design theory documents/web sites/books?? 



Cool, radios on forklifts? Can I get one on my bike, please? I'll even throw in 
a six pack. 



Happy Friday. 



Leah 





From: Travis Truax <[email protected]> 
To: Michael Mattias/LS <[email protected]> 
Cc: EDI-L <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 11:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 856 design theory documents/web sites/books?? 






I agree with you in almost every case, but it actually seems to work better 
that way here (in our current situation). 

I called us "Jacks" in short for Jacks-of-all-trade, as we have had to learn 
and document business processes here extensively during software 
implementations, define business processes where none existed, etc. We've also 
been here about 15 years, and even though we are masters of none, our knowledge 
is on par with some of the veterans in other departments, and definitely more 
well-rounded. 

I think small businesses fall into the mindset that if it's technical, it 
belongs to IT. We're expected to design websites, diagnose network problems, 
install mag-locks & biometric security hardware, answer helpdesk calls, handle 
social marketing campaigns & QR codes, maintain the phone system, run wire, 
manage EDI, ERP, manage several SQL databases, negotiate telcom service 
contracts, work with PLCs and Vision systems, install forklift mounted 
touchscreens, radios, scanner hardware, etc. Needless to say our ToDo list only 
shrinks when unfinished projects become no longer important enough to keep 
harassing us about. :) 

Travis- 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Michael Mattias/LS" < [email protected] > 
To: "EDI-L" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 8:31:26 AM 
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 856 design theory documents/web sites/books?? 

> Of course there are people here working.... what I mean is we do 
> everything even remotely technical. So EDI *for us* is not just 
> translation. I don't have >application people that I can ask to start 
> providing certain data in the shipment output so that I can plug it into a 
> map- I have to do all of it. Boo Hoo, I know. 

Not "Boo hoo", sir; "Still?" 

I continue to be amazed at the number of firms which think they can "do EDI" 
without the active participation of the Real Users; that is, that the "I/T 
department" alone can implement an EDI trading relationship with a 
customer, vendor, or other partner. 

IMNSHO* it cannot be done. 

I/T guys are often way too academic, lacking practical knowledge of their 
employer's real business. 

"Doing EDI " is *not* an "I/T thing" ... it's a "business process" thing. 

How do you expect guys to improve something about which they know little or 
nothing? 

Michael C. Mattias 
Tal Systems Inc. 
Racine WI 
[email protected] 

* IMO: I'm open to changing my mind given a good argument 
IMNSHO: I'm not. 

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