But... I don't like worms.... %^) Yes, I know it's not Friday but.......
Harold DeWayne, CECP, RECS On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Ken Etter <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > Matt, > > Here's a couple more pieces of food for thought: > > Are you aware that a growing number of cases recruiters will perform their > own search (of job boards) and contact potential candidates prior to posting > the position online themself? They do this to potentially save themself > time and effort from having to field through a myriad of responses AND calls > from interested candidates after the job is posted on a site. If they find > a qualified candidate or candidate(s), they may not even have to post the > postion. By posting a profile online and the recruiter contacting you in > this manner, this also gives you a leg up ahead of the rest of the pack. > > Also by only using Word of Mouth you are subject to that person's point of > reference, what they are hearing but more importantly timing, which may a > day or more after the job has already been listed. By then you > are contacting the recruiter or employer after a number of other candidates > and in some cases, may never receive a call back, even if you are qualified, > because the recruiter or employer will only review so many resumes and/or > submit so many candidates at a time. This is also true for any jobs or > opportunities which might be posted here on this group - the ones I post, I > received usually a day or two beforehand and since I'm now working again, > will forward them over to this group. > > I'm not knocking word of mouth referrals and think that is an essential > part of any job or contract search, but I have found referrals to cause me > to be behind the curve on getting my resume to the end employer (using > another adage ' the early bird gets the worm') and would never rely on just > using Word of Mouth. > > The same is true by manually checking job sites instead of using job > alerts. Depending on what time you usually start your manual search, you > can be several hours late and with the millions of IT workers looking, > again, you are going to have to stand in line. It doesn't take long to get > a resume set up online and then set up a job alert that will usually notify > you of qualified positions between 12a-6a, depending on where you live. > > BTW, I agree with your change of pace or enjoying some down time (or even > pursuing some much delayed professional training for that matter) and that > is included in my own published Job search list that I'll provide if you > care to see it. > > Thanks, > > > Ken > [email protected] > > > From: mwlblues <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:22 AM > > Subject: [EDI-L] Re: <SALES> Freelance EDI Consultant Available > > > Thank you to everyone who have so generously shared their experiences and > expertise. I will certainly give LinkedIn a closer look. > Monster/Dice/CareerBuilder are undeniably good spots to find work - I > usually prefer to respond to what's there vs uploading a resume - again in > that preference I'm probably not making the right choice but I do have a bit > more control over the degree of information and queries that need to be > responded to. No risk of information overload, and needing to build up your > "Sorry, I'm booked" muscles are not an issue either when the work is already > there > > The good news in doing things the 'old-school' way, (word of mouth > referrals to fill your schedule) is that after working 40 - 60 hrs a week > for a while now by this method, when a down-day comes along on a Monday or a > Tuesday I have to just relax and take the time to rest & recharge. The > heat-wave has broken, and what better time time build that 10x12 equipment > shed that I've been needing? > A break in the pace is not necessarily a bad thing, in this case anyway > > Great group here! > Matt Longfield > > --- In [email protected], Ken Etter <edispec@...> wrote: > > > > Now here's a topic that's near and dear to my heart having gone through a > number of jobs over the last 12 or so years, that ended for virtually every > reason in the book; RIF, dept consolidation in another state, position > outsourced, worked myself out of a job and the company eliminated the > position after determining other staff could take care of the system now > that it runs so well, etc., etc., etc. > >  > > I would think a successful key to any business or consultancy is > networking and just not visiting your local Chamber of Commerce or Rotary > meeting. And what better way to network than on Linkedin (not familiar > with Farmtown). I would have to say if you're not on LinkedIn as an IT > professional looking for new work, you're missing a key element to any > marketing plan for a consultant. You can even set up job alerts to get > qualified listings sent directly to your inbox, just like with regular job > sites. Also there are a number of EDI and consulting related groups on > LinkedIn which have job and contract postings virtually every day, that if > you monitor those groups (receive emails alerts of new postings), you add > even more potential to finding a new contract or job. > >  > > As to the regular job sites, especially Dice.com which is almost purely > IT focused, would almost be a necessity to any successful search for a new > job or contract. Actually when I'm looking, I use Monster, Careerbuilder, > Dice, the state and regional job sites besides LinkedIn and two more I'll > mention the following paragraph. I guess my thinking is I can set up job > alerts on all of them that work for free in most, if not all, cases, so why > not? It beats having to pay for advertising and you get your name out in > front of numerous recruiters. And if you are open to doing remote work, > you get nationwide exposure - try researching the cost of advertising on a > nationwide level and I think you start to get an idea. > >  > > Also have you considered checking Sologig.com and > > guru.com?Â<http://guru.com/?%C3%82>  > A bit more competitive since there are a lot of overseas users who work for > very low billing rates, but some companies want someone they can invite > onsite every now and then. > >  > > The old dog, new tricks adage you mentioned may have already kept you > from finding your next gig, so I'd recommend you consider checking into > LinkedIn sooner than later.  Because your competition already is... > >  > > Ken > > edispec@... > > > > From: mwlblues <mwlblues@...> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:27 PM > > Subject: [EDI-L] Re: <SALES> Freelance EDI Consultant Available > > > > > >  > > Thanks Dave and Craig for the nice advice. > > I have a LinkedIn account, and occasionally accept contacts and such, but > I have to admit that social-media isn't a tool that I use too often. > Old-dog-new-tricks I suppose. I've sworn off Farmtown and Facebook as the > greatest time-suck apps of all time, even surpassing solitare (windows or > linux versions). I suppose someday I'll need to embrace it, at least > LinkedIn anyway. > > > > Sigh...the good ol' days. > > At least it's Friday. Whooooo hoooooo! > > > > --- In [email protected], Dave Records <dave@> wrote: > > > > > > Craig, agree wholeheartedly! I'm on LinkedIn and Dice and I receive an > average of 3 to 4 calls and emails a month for opportunities. > > > > > > Dave Records > > > Records Consulting, LLC > > > Email: dave@ > > > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Craig Dunham wrote: > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > > I applaud your posting here and offering your services. There are a > few of > > > > us out here - EDI consultants, developers, etc. - and we all are > always > > > > looking for new gigs. > > > > > > > > May I also suggest that you search on the major job sites (Monster, > Dice, > > > > CareerBuilder, etc.) for jobs...? I don't know how long you've been a > > > > member of EDI-L, but there are often postings on here for jobs > needing to be > > > > filled, many by recruiters and also by members who may be contacted > by > > > > recruiters and are passing the information on. > > > > > > > > Also, be sure to check out LinkedIn and many of the groups on there. > There > > > > are many times when recruiters are posting jobs to those groups... > > > > > > > > Good luck in finding new clients and positions to take on. > > > > > > > > Craig Dunham > > > > Bear Necessities Computing > > > > EDI Sherpa > > > > Author/blogger > > > > RetailEDI.com > > > > EDITalk.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... 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