The AHA is a major player in healthcare politics and they will certainly have a 
huge influence in the decision for any delays.
Keep in mind the rest of the world has been using ICD-10 for over 10 years 
and ICD-11 will be published in a few years.
The US is far behind in the international medical coding business. 

David Frenkel 





________________________________
From: Rachel Foerster & Associates <[email protected]>
To: EDI-L <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, October 20, 2011 4:50:25 PM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Regarding Upgradation of Version from 4010 to 5010

  
David, the fact that the AHA testified at an NCVHS hearing that there is strong 
concern that some (many) state Medicaids will not be ready is not a valid 
reason 
to push back the compliance deadline. If one took this approach, there would 
never be a compliance deadline at all.

Rachel Foerster

847-872-8070

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
Frenkel
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:42 AM
To: EDI-L
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Regarding Upgradation of Version from 4010 to 5010

Testimony of the American Hospital Association before the Standards Subcommittee
of the
National Committee on Vital and Health Statistics
“Industry implementation of updated and new HIPAA Standards and Code Sets
X12 Version 5010, NCPDP Version D.0, NCPDP Version 3.0 and ICD-10”
June 17, 2011
...A growing area of concern is the state Medicaid programs. We understand that 
some programs –
such as California, Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania – will not be ready to 
handle the newer
version of 5010 by January 2012, or even use the ICD-10 codes by October 1, 
2013. This is
particularly troublesome because it would result in dual reporting of ICD-9 and 
ICD-10. Such
delays are unacceptable and add significant operational costs and 
administrative 

burden to an
already costly undertaking. CMS could potentially facilitate our understanding 
of Medicaid
readiness status by surveying states to gauge their readiness for 5010 and 
their 

ICD-10 progress
as well as undertaking a national day of testing for state Medicaid programs. 

David Frenkel 

________________________________
From: Mary Burkinshaw <[email protected] <mailto:mburkins%40hotmail.com> >
To: [email protected] <mailto:rachel%40rfa-edi.com> ; Michael Mattias/LS 
<[email protected] <mailto:mcmlserve%40talsystems.com> >; EDI-L 

<[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thu, October 20, 2011 11:20:31 AM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Regarding Upgradation of Version from 4010 to 5010

Announced last week in LinkedIn HIPAA 411

California Medicaid (Medi-Cal) has just announced they will NOT be ready for 
5010 on Jan 1, 2012 and providers should expect to send 4010 for up to a year 
past the compliance date!

http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view= 
<http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view= 
<http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&srchtype=discussedNews&gid=2473393&item=75706612&type=member&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_pd-ttl-cn&ut=1eGLOYaDuPu4Y1>
&srchtype=discussedNews&gid=2473393&item=75706612&type=member&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_pd-ttl-cn&ut=1eGLOYaDuPu4Y1>
>
&srchtype=discussedNews&gid=2473393&item=75706612&type=member&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_pd-ttl-cn&ut=1eGLOYaDuPu4Y1

1

No real surprise though.

Mary

From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of 
Rachel 

Foerster & Associates
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:40 AM
To: 'Michael Mattias/LS'; 'EDI-L'
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Regarding Upgradation of Version from 4010 to 5010

And I will match you – there will be no delay in v5010 compliance on 1/1/12.

Rachel Foerster

847-872-8070

From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 

[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of 

Michael Mattias/LS
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:45 PM
To: EDI-L
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Regarding Upgradation of Version from 4010 to 5010

> Delay? Oh, no, this [HIPAA] 5010 rolls on 1/1/2012....

I have five bucks says there will be a delay....

....probably slipped into a 4000-page year-end "Omnibus Budget Reconcilation
Act" just like it was in 2001.

Michael C. Mattias
Tal Systems Inc.
Racine WI
[email protected] <mailto:mmattias%40talsystems.com> 
<mailto:mmattias%40talsystems.com> 

<mailto:mmattias%40talsystems.com> 

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