2/2/12

Well, doh!  on me. Almost as a joke I "googled"  for "EDIFACT Type Trees 
Mercator 1.4"  and I actually have some "hits" worth 
pursuing!

I guess stuff on the Internet really does live forever!

MCM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Mattias/LS" <[email protected]>
To: "EDI-L" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: OLD Software sought - Mercator , Trading Partner/PC


> 2/2/12
>
> I am looking for some Mercator version 1.4.2 (that is NOT a typo, version 
> one-point-four-point-two) type trees for three EDIFACT 
> transaction sets: D97A DESADV, DELFOR and DELJIT.
>
> I really only need at this time D97A/DESADV but I can see a need for the D97A 
> DELFOR and DELJIT coming up and I want to beat the 
> rush.
>
> I can use either of of two types of type trees:
>
> 1. Actual *.MTT type tree (Mercator 1.4 or earlier) for  EDIFACT D97A
> 2.  MTS export file for D97A which I can import via Type tree maker. (Create 
> with Mercator 1.4 Type Designer: Tree/Export to MTS
> I only need the three documents mentioned above but I know pulling these out 
> can be kind of a crummy job so I could take "all."
>
> 3. The *.MTS command type tree for the Translated File created by Trading 
> Partner 6.0.  (open Trading Partner, right click on 
> transaction, properties. There is a button for "Create Mercator Tree."  This 
> creates an MTS script file; the generated type is for 
> a file of fixed-length 'text' records.
>
> Note that later versions of Trading partner (6.3 for sure)  do not create the 
> required format for import with the Mercator Type 
> Tree Maker utility version 1.4
>
> Example:
> MTS file created by TPPC 6.0.0.63 , imports perfectly into Mercator 1.4.2 . 
> Same file is created by Mercator Type Designer 1.4
>
> NEWTREE=8564010.mtt,TPPC,Trading Partner PC EDI 
> Files,[IMPLIED],[CHARACTER,[TEXT,LEFT,0,0,20,HEX,SYMBOL]]
> SETTYPE=TPPC
> INITIATOR=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
> TERMINATOR=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
> RELEASE=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
> SETTYPE=TPPC
> CATEGORY=Control,TPPC Control 
> Information,,[IMPLIED],[CHARACTER,[TEXT,LEFT,0,0,20,HEX,SYMBOL]]
> SETTYPE=Control TPPC
> INITIATOR=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
> TERMINATOR=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
> RELEASE=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
> SETTYPE=Control TPPC
> CATEGORY=Element,TPPC Header 
> Elements,,[IMPLIED],[CHARACTER,[TEXT,LEFT,0,0,20,HEX,SYMBOL]]
> SETTYPE=Element Control TPPC
> INITIATOR=[LITERAL,,SYMBOL,SYMBOL]
>
>
> MTS file created by TPPC 6.3.0.57
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE TTMAKER SYSTEM "ttmaker.dtd" 
> ><?ttmaker.exe ANALYZE?>
> <TTMAKER>
> <TypeTree>
> <NEWTREE><FileName>D97ADESV.mtt</FileName><Root><SimpleTypeName>TPPC</SimpleTypeName><Description>Trading
>  Partner PC EDI 
> Files</Description><gprop_implicit 
> structure="sequence"></gprop_implicit><iprop_char_text><size><Min>0</Min><Max>S</Max></size></iprop_char_text></Root></NEWTREE>
> <SETROOT><SimpleTypeName>TPPC</SimpleTypeName></SETROOT>
> <CATEGORYCLASS><SimpleTypeName>Control</SimpleTypeName><Description>TPPC 
> Control Information</Description><gprop_implicit 
> structure="sequence"></gprop_implicit><iprop_char_text><size><Min>0</Min><Max>S</Max></size></iprop_char_text></CATEGORYCLASS>
> <SETCATEGORY><CompleteTypeName>Control TPPC</CompleteTypeName></SETCATEGORY>
> <CATEGORYCLASS><SimpleTypeName>Element</SimpleTypeName><Description>TPPC 
> Header Elements</Description><gprop_implicit 
> structure="sequence"></gprop_implicit><iprop_char_text><size><Min>0</Min><Max>S</Max></size></iprop_char_text></CATEGORYCLASS>
> <SETCATEGORY><CompleteTypeName>Element Control 
> TPPC</CompleteTypeName></SETCATEGORY>
>
>
> You see that in TPPC 6.3 the "tree script" created by Trading Partner is the 
> XML format used by Mercator 2+, whereas the older 
> Trading Partner creates a simple "text record" format used by Mercator v1.
>
>
> COPYRIGHT ISSUES.
> I can't find any legitimate source for type trees for Mercator version 1.4.  
> Not a surprise since that version was officially 
> desupported in 1996. I did not even think to call IBM about this;  EDI-L 
> members at least won't laugh at me.
>
> I also have not yet heard back from DiCentral if might have lying around any 
> Trading Partner PC "Kits" for D97A/DELFOR,DESADV and 
> DELJIT for TPPC 6.0 but they have not got back to me yet.   (You know I 
> should probably try Emanio... I'll bet they didn't find 
> everything  when they sold Trading Partner to DICentral and may have some 6.0 
> kits in an old storage closet somewhere).
>
> The bottom line is, I am not holding out a lot of hope for what I need from 
> the legitimate owner, which "sounds like" the owner 
> has abandoned any rights in the older product, meaning whomever has this 
> stuff may do as they please with it.(At least this is 
> what I am going to tell myself so I can sleep at night).
>
>
> COMPENSATION
> I can pay for this but there is a limit to what is going to make economic 
> sense. Maybe someone wants to trade for some old stuff I 
> DO have available and they don't? If it's for Mercator 1.4  ANSI EDI , I (my 
> client that is)  may just have what you need.
>
> SUGGESTIONS
> I am open to any suggestions for alternate sources for these type trees.
>
>
> Meanwhile I'm going to play with the XML format and see if maybe I can 
> convert "new MTS" to "old MTS". (Wish me luck on that one!)
>
>
> Thanks, Regards
> Michael C. Mattias
> Tal Systems Inc.
> Racine WI
> [email protected]
> 262-681-3895
> Outside WI Toll Free 1-877-264-2847
> 



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