Maybe we should discuss what is the definition of a modern VAN? Technology has advanced to a stage where we no longer require 3rd party “store and forward” data switching services. In the beginning a VAN was essential for secure connectivity. Any modern gateway application can now provide secure reliable connectivity, data transformation with non repudiation and audit trail.
I would agree EDI skills are a dying art, many companies outsource mapping because they have lost the skilled internal resource. Assuming outsourcing (cloud) for everything is a real trend, I would ask; If you look to outsource your B2B / EDI connectivity, trading partner / community management (to include data transformation and some level of business process / exception handling) is that 3rd party provider what you consider to be a modern VAN? Are all the companies providing these services as a Managed Service or SaaS now considered to be a VAN as well? At what point of operating your own Gateway to directly enable your community do you become an in house VAN operator? Best Regards, -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [EDI-L] VANs From: vickey kelley <[email protected]> Date: Mon, May 13, 2013 12:00 pm To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, ken kinlock <[email protected]>, ""[email protected]"" <[email protected]> If you guy's think VANS are obsolete, then you should do more home work. this is not 1993 or 1994, the services that vans provide today are just mind blowing. the one thing that's missing here and edi people. how many people do you know that can really read a edi document anymore? How many companies want to pay for great edi people? Were would someone learn EDI? More companies today leading toward paying for hosting all there EDI needs, this is a van service also. I not saying it not a good idea, but it's not simple, it's not easy, it's not cheap and please find some people that can at least read a ISA. thanks vick software support, van support, edi support, translator support ftp, ftp with ssl, ftp with ssh, as2, bisync, async connection with the vans From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: ken kinlock <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:48 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] VANs Ken, Nice article and I agree with your conclusion: "My conclusion! Most VANs are obsolete! The current externally configured VAN structure (big solutions, long contracts) is better implemented as a Web Services API (Application Programming Interface). That will give you the ability to call and connect to the World of Global EDI on your own!" Best regards, James -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [EDI-L] VANs From: ken kinlock <mailto:k_kinlock%40yahoo.com> Date: Sun, May 12, 2013 6:08 am To: the_unagog <mailto:unagog%40gmail.com>, "mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com"; <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Hi Phil Thought a lot about it. So much that I wrote an article about it: http://www.ec-bp.com/index.php/advisors/ec-bps-bloggers/322-should-my-client-start-a-new-edi-van#axzz2SfqrTFa3 Todd Gould is the guy with the year 2013 solution< ...Ken Ken Kinlock Electronic Commerce, Logistics, Supply Chain, SEO and EDI ________________________________ From: the_unagog <mailto:unagog%40gmail.com> To: mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 4:50 PM Subject: [EDI-L] VANs Hi Group, Has anybody had any experience in building your own VAN? I was always interested in that. Thanks, Phil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
