In retrospect my choice of words here wasn't very clear. I should have said

 

Personally, I don't see a strong value for either approach over the other.



 

 

Rachel Foerster

847-872-8070

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Rachel Foerster
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:27 PM
To: 'Skip'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] X12 migration to EDIFACT?

 

  

Short answer to will UN/EDIFACT takeover (subsume) X12 as a result of no fee
for UN/EDIFACT: nope - this won't happen

As Leah has said, for the most part industries in various geographical
markets have already made their sunk cost investment into either one or
both, depending on where their markets are. I would be hard pressed to see
any organization making a major business decision to throw away its
investment in the X12 infrastructure simply because X12 charges for its
standards. The cost to change far exceeds the cost of the standards and
would deliver no measurable business benefit.

Both standards are what I characterize as tagged, delimited structure using
a dictionary/directory of data elements and segments with rules for tagging,
delimiting, organizing it all into a business message or transaction. 

Both standards have a specific defined data elements with a specified
semantic and more generic defined data elements with which a qualifier must
be used in order to convey a specific unambiguous semantic. Personally, I
don't see a strong value for either approach.

Implementers of both standards typically (hopefully J) will work from
companion guides for their key trading partners so both parties can more
easily realize semantic interoperability (or for all parties in an industry-
the dream/vision from some industries).

When pigs fly and cows jump over the moon would I predict that the
electronic exchange of data will become truly standardized. And if we think
about that, it's a good thing for us, isn't it?

Rachel Foerster

847-872-8070

From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Skip
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:51 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [EDI-L] X12 migration to EDIFACT?

I am not too active here but do follow discussions. Recently there has been
a hub-bub (technical term) about the pricing and related issues with X12.

When I first really got into EDI, it was a long time ago but the first
standard I really got into was for a pharmaceutical company using JD
Edwards. Due to the EU business focus and other foreign activities we
selected UN EDIFACT as the EDI basis for all external and internal date
transmissions. As many orders were placed intra-company and then forwarded
to other 'foreign' companies this seemed like a good basis.

I really loved this standard as it seemed so much more 'organized' and
specific than the nebulous formation of so many X12 segments. The more
'structured feel' was nice and specific.

Now with the discussions, do you believe than there could be a future
migration and adoption of UN EDIFACT standards as they are 'free' and
supported world-wide?

Just a random thought this morning.

Cheers all,

Skip Stein
The EDI Guy
http://www.ediguy.net

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