You are correct.

Device paths always work fine.  DevicePaths are what are in BootXXXX and 
DriverXXXX variables.

The missing piece is the conversion from FSX to the starting node.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Tim Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 2:09 PM
> To: Carsey, Jaben <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; Michael Zimmermann
> <[email protected]>; Daryl McDaniel ([email protected])
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> Importance: High
> 
> Sure, the FSx: names are created by the shell. So before the shell loads,
> there is no Shell protocol, so no mapping names. That means that the StdLib
> implementation statically linked with a UEFI driver will not find the Shell
> protocol and will not be able to match any volume names (FSx or consistent
> mapping or any user-created mappings), but the rest of the device path rules
> should apply. So, for example
> \PciRoot(0)\Pci(0,31)\Usb(0,0)\Mbr()\BootX64.efi could work, right? Those
> are the types of device paths that a UEFI driver might find in the BootXXXX
> variables and want to use.
> 
> Tim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsey, Jaben [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 2:02 PM
> To: Tim Lewis <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; Michael Zimmermann
> <[email protected]>; Daryl McDaniel ([email protected])
> <[email protected]>; Carsey, Jaben <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Good catch.  I did not consider HII stuff.
> 
> If you use a UEFI Shell Spec defined "consistent map name", it works without
> the shell since that is a 1:1 conversion with DevicePath.
> 
> If you use a Shell map name, then it can try, but there is no guarantee that
> enumerations are right.  Using FS0: based mapping in a driver is very scary to
> me.
> 
> -Jaben
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Lewis [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:58 PM
> > To: Carsey, Jaben <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]; Michael Zimmermann
> > <[email protected]>; Daryl McDaniel
> > ([email protected]) <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Jaben --
> >
> > I can certainly recall instances where drivers that publish HII setup
> > pages load things from the disk (such as when checking for specific file
> names).
> >
> > I also seem to recall that the original EDK shell library was designed
> > to that volume names were simply ignored if the shell protocol was not
> > present. This is essentially what the Shell APIs do, right? They just
> > convert mapping names into device path snippets.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: edk2-devel [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Carsey, Jaben
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:53 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: Carsey, Jaben <[email protected]>; [email protected];
> > Michael Zimmermann <[email protected]>; Daryl McDaniel
> (edk2-
> > [email protected]) <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> >
> > The thing that I am trying to figure out is what LibC APIs is really
> > needed by the driver?
> >
> > UEFI Drivers are not supposed to do things like FILE I/O, so who cares
> > if they would fail if they were called…
> >
> > Sidenote: I think that daShell.c is only used when you ask LibC for
> > things that come from the shell…
> >
> > This snippet makes standard APIs point to shell specific ones…
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:814:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_close
> =
> > &da_ShellClose;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:815:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_read
> =
> > &da_ShellRead;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:816:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_write
> =
> > &da_ShellWrite;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:818:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_poll
> =
> > &da_ShellPoll;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:820:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_stat
> =
> > &da_ShellStat;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:821:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_ioctl
> =
> > &da_ShellIoctl;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:822:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_delete = &da_ShellDelete;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:823:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_rmdir = &da_ShellRmdir;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:824:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_mkdir = &da_ShellMkdir;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:825:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_rename = &da_ShellRename;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:826:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_lseek
> =
> > &da_ShellSeek;
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:48 PM
> > To: Carsey, Jaben <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Michael Zimmermann <[email protected]>; Marvin Häuser
> > <[email protected]>; [email protected]; edk2-
> > [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Carsey, Jaben
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > It works for libs.  If you specify a specific LibraryClass
> > implementation, it will not add a second of that library class.
> >
> > Side note: what if you turn off AutoInitialize PCD for the shell lib?
> > That would get rid of your main issue (the constructor ASSERT)…  then
> > we can see what other issues you have.
> >
> >
> > This seems like the set of library APIs that would be needed (and one
> > usage of  gEfiShellProtocol->SetCurDir()).
> >
> > ~/work/src/edk2/StdLib(master)>git grep Shell -- *.c
> > LibC/Main/Main.c:20:#include  <Library/ShellCEntryLib.h>
> > LibC/Main/Main.c:130:ShellAppMain ( LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:23:#include
> > <Library/ShellLib.h>
> > LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:155:  OpStat = ShellExecute( &MyHandle, gMD-
> > >UString, FALSE, NULL, &CmdStat);
> > LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:167:    are determined by the underlying UEFI Shell
> > implementation.
> > LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:181:  EfiEnv = ShellGetEnvironmentVariable(gMD-
> > >UString);
> > LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:248:    HostName = ShellGetEnvironmentVariable (
> > UName );
> > LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:254:      Status = ShellSetEnvironmentVariable (
> > UName, UValue, TRUE );
> > LibC/StdLib/Environs.c:265:        Status = ShellSetEnvironmentVariable (
> > UName, UValue, FALSE );
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:2:  Abstract device driver for
> > the UEFI Shell-hosted environment.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:4:  In a Shell-hosted
> > environment, this is the driver that is called
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:21:#include
> > <Library/ShellLib.h>
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:40:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for close().
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:50:da_ShellClose(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:54:  EFIerrno = ShellCloseFile(
> > (SHELL_FILE_HANDLE *)&Fp->devdata);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:61:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for deleting a file or directory.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:71:da_ShellDelete(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:77:  Status = ShellDeleteFile(
> > (SHELL_FILE_HANDLE *)&filp->devdata);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:86:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for setting the position within a file.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:97:da_ShellSeek(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:113:      Status = 
> > ShellSetFilePosition(
> > FileHandle, 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFULL);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:117:      Status = 
> > ShellGetFilePosition(
> > FileHandle, (UINT64 *)&CurPos);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:128:    Status = ShellSetFilePosition(
> > FileHandle, (UINT64)(CurPos + offset));
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:131:      Status = 
> > ShellGetFilePosition(
> > FileHandle, (UINT64 *)&CurPos);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:161:da_ShellMkdir(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:177:    Status = ShellCreateDirectory(
> > NewPath, &FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:179:      FileInfo = ShellGetFileInfo(
> > FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:180:      Status = RETURN_ABORTED;
> //
> > In case ShellGetFileInfo() failed
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:184:        Status = ShellSetFileInfo(
> > FileHandle, FileInfo);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:187:
> > (void)ShellCloseFile(&FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:199:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for reading from a file.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:212:da_ShellRead(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:224:    BufSize =
> > (ssize_t)da_ShellSeek(filp, *offset, SEEK_SET);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:233:  Status = ShellReadFile(
> > FileHandle, (UINTN *)&BufSize, Buffer);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:250:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for writing to a file.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:263:da_ShellWrite(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:286:    BufSize =
> > (ssize_t)da_ShellSeek(filp, Position, How);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:295:  Status = ShellWriteFile(
> > FileHandle, (UINTN *)&BufSize, (void *)Buffer);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:312:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for getting information about an open file.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:324:da_ShellStat(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:338:  FileInfo =
> > ShellGetFileInfo( FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:374:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for low-level control of a file or device.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:386:da_ShellIoctl(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:399:  FileInfo =
> > ShellGetFileInfo( FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:427:      Status =
> > ShellSetFileInfo(FileHandle, FileInfo);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:446:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for opening a file or directory.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:459:da_ShellOpen(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:462:  int                 
> > DevInstance,    /*
> Not
> > used by Shell */
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:511:  !!!!!!!!! Change this to
> > use
> > ShellSetFileInfo() to actually truncate the file
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:516:      Status = ShellIsFile( WPath 
> > );
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:544:  // Call the EFI Shell's
> > Open function
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:545:    Status =
> ShellOpenFileByName(
> > WPath, &FileHandle, OpenMode, Attributes);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:592:da_ShellPoll(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:622:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for renaming a file.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:633:da_ShellRename(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:653:      OldFileInfo =
> ShellGetFileInfo(
> > FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:668:        Status =
> > ShellSetFileInfo(FileHandle, NewFileInfo);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:695:/** EFI Shell specific
> > operations for deleting directories.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:705:da_ShellRmdir(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:721:  FileInfo =
> > ShellGetFileInfo(FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:727:      FreePool(FileInfo);  // Free
> up
> > the buffer from ShellGetFileInfo()
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:729:      Status = ShellFindFirstFile(
> > FileHandle, &FileInfo);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:733:          Status = 
> > ShellFindNextFile(
> > FileHandle, FileInfo, &NoFile);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:744:        /*  Count == 99 and 
> > FileInfo
> is
> > allocated if ShellFindNextFile failed.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:745:            ShellFindNextFile has
> freed
> > FileInfo itself if it sets NoFile TRUE.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:748:          free(FileInfo);   // 
> > Free
> buffer
> > from ShellFindFirstFile()
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:752:          Status = 
> > ShellDeleteFile(
> > &FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:775:  ShellCloseFile(
> > &FileHandle);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:783:/** Construct an instance of
> > the abstract Shell device.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:797:__ctor_DevShell(
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:814:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_close
> =
> > &da_ShellClose;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:815:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_read
> =
> > &da_ShellRead;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:816:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_write
> =
> > &da_ShellWrite;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:818:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_poll
> =
> > &da_ShellPoll;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:820:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_stat
> =
> > &da_ShellStat;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:821:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_ioctl
> =
> > &da_ShellIoctl;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:822:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_delete = &da_ShellDelete;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:823:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_rmdir = &da_ShellRmdir;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:824:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_mkdir = &da_ShellMkdir;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:825:
> > Stream->Abstraction.fo_rename = &da_ShellRename;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:826:  Stream->Abstraction.fo_lseek
> =
> > &da_ShellSeek;
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:828:  Node = __DevRegister(NULL,
> > NULL, &da_ShellOpen, Stream, 1, sizeof(GenericInstance), O_RDWR);
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:835:/** Destructor for
> > previously constructed EFI Shell device instances.
> > LibC/Uefi/Devices/UefiShell/daShell.c:844:__dtor_DevShell(
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:20:#include  <Library/ShellLib.h>
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:605:    The EFI ShellOpenFileByName() function is used
> to
> > perform the low-level
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:618:    The only valid flag combinations for
> > ShellOpenFileByName() are:
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:990:    The fstat() function is implemented using the
> > ShellGetFileInfo()
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:1314:  Cwd = ShellGetCurrentDir(NULL);
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:1338:                  - EPERM: Operation not 
> > supported with
> > this Shell version.
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:1351:  /* Old Shell does not support Set Current
> > Dir. */
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:1352:  if(gEfiShellProtocol != NULL) {
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:1353:    Cwd = ShellGetCurrentDir(NULL);
> > LibC/Uefi/SysCalls.c:1362:      Status = gEfiShellProtocol->SetCurDir(NULL,
> > UnicodePath);
> > PosixLib/GetPass/GetPass.c:14:#include <Library/ShellLib.h>
> > PosixLib/GetPass/GetPass.c:30:  ReturnString =
> > ShellFileHandleReturnLine (gEfiShellParametersProtocol->StdIn,
> > &Ascii);
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew Fish
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Michael Zimmermann [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:32 PM
> > To: Carsey, Jaben
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Cc: Andrew Fish <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Marvin
> > Häuser
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; edk2-
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> > Importance: High
> >
> > > You can have different libs and different flags per driver.  You use
> > > the {}
> > syntax on the INF file in the components section.  This is already
> > done in the Shell.DSC to control PCDs separating the ShellLib when
> > used for the shell compared to ShellLib used for shell applications.
> >
> > Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like I totally misunderstood how
> > the {} syntax works.
> > Does this only work for Applications/Drivers or for Libraries too so
> > you don't have to do this for every driver?
> >
> > I prefer fixing the behavior at build time over implementing a
> > fallback because it would be weird if the application behaves totally
> > different depending on if you start it via the BDS or from the Shell.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Michael
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Carsey, Jaben
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Note: The ShellLib is not part of the shell spec.  The ShellProtocol
> > and ShellParametersProtocol are.  The current ShellLib is designed to
> > facilitate porting and writing of apps for the shell.  The porting
> > will become obsolete over time as we encounter fewer and fewer EDKShell
> apps.
> >
> > That does’t mean that your conclusion is wrong.  We could make a
> > different ShellLib that is not actually dependent on the shell.
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > You can have different libs and different flags per driver.  You use
> > the {} syntax on the INF file in the components section.  This is
> > already done in the Shell.DSC to control PCDs separating the ShellLib
> > when used for the shell compared to ShellLib used for shell applications.
> >
> >
> > -Jaben
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Michael Zimmermann
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:13 PM
> > To: Andrew Fish <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Cc: Marvin Häuser
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Carsey, Jaben
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; edk2-
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > the problem with multiple library instances is that this does only
> > work globally and it gets in your way if you need different versions of a
> dependent library.
> >
> > In our case, Applications/Drivers only depend on LibC, an LibC then
> > depends on ShellLib which means we'd have to create another LibC
> > instance which depends on another version of ShellLib.
> >
> > In other words: you can't use the same Library with different build
> > options in different drivers built by the same DSC. You'd have to
> > create a renamed .inf with different build options which you can't do
> > because your driver doesn't depend directly on that lib.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Michael
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Andrew Fish
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Michael Zimmermann
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > sry for not reasing the Shell Spec but I think you can answer this faster.
> > Does the Spec prevent implementing such a 'pure-EFI' fallback by
> > default so we can use the same ShellLib globally?
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > If I remember correctly the Shell Spec specifies how the shell
> > functions and what protocols it produces that other code can depend on.
> >
> > and follow-up question: Libraries are not compiled multiple times
> > right? so If I would specify additional CFLAGs these would only be
> > used to build your package and not for the libraríes you are using right?
> >
> >
> > The edk2 has the concept of library instances. The DSC file for the
> > platform picks the instance of the library for the Module Type.
> > Basically ShellLib.h would be the public API and ShellLib is the
> > library class. The library class is the public API and it is names in
> > the [Defines] section of the libraries INF file via LIBRARY_CLASS =.
> > The build system is smart enough to only build the libraries that are 
> > actually
> being used.
> >
> > For example this would be the line in the DSC:
> > ShellLib|ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLib/UefiShellLib.inf
> >
> > And you could change it to:
> > ShellLib | AltPathToUefiShellLib/AltUefiShellLib.inf
> >
> > The upside to all this is the same reason we introduced the concept of
> > library classes in the 1st place, you can change the behavior of the
> > StdLib without modifying any of the code in the standard lib. This
> > would be a good way to experiment and if you get it working I guess it
> > could get added to the StdLib at some point as an alternate way to build it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew Fish
> >
> > If that's correct then we should stay away from changing ShellLib's
> > behavior using cflags in your DSC because it would prevent building
> > both shell and efi users of ShellLib with one DSC file.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Andrew Fish
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Marvin Häuser
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Daryl, Jaben,
> > >
> > > As you are the package maintainers of StdLib, could you please
> > > comment
> > on the situation?
> > > If modifications to have StdLib working for drivers are welcome, I
> > > would
> > offer my help in cleaning up the existing stuff and/or write my own
> > patches, though of course there is little point if there is no
> > reaction from the reviewers.
> > > If it is of any interest, I want to write a shim library for
> > > Capstone and would
> > prefer not to have three copies of Std functions in my tree (StdLib,
> > CryptoPkg
> > (SSL) and Capstone), but rather an improved StdLib that works for all.
> > >
> > > Thanks to those who have offered alternative solutions, but I prefer
> > > to keep it ‚clean‘ and have the libraries shipping with EDK2 work.
> > > :)
> > >
> >
> > Marvin,
> >
> > It looks like the StdLib has a dependency on the ShellLib and 
> > ShellCEntryLib.
> > One option would be to implement a new instance of the ShellLib and
> > the ShellCEntryLib that don't depend on the Shell. You can get a
> > template of how to do file operations from
> >
> here:https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/EmbeddedPkg/Librar
> > y/EfiFileLib/EfiFileLib.c
> >
> > You would have a couple of options. You good go with the EfiFileLib
> > volume synatax, you could just do pure EFI (unclear how to specify a
> > volume (driver letter)). You could also just add code to fallback if
> > you can't find the shell protocols to due more pure EFI stuff. That
> > way you don't need to modify the StdLib just how you build the StdLib from
> the DSC.
> >
> > For example you could implement the functions in the ShellLib that the
> > StdLib requires and use something like the EfiFileLib to make it
> > easier. I think ShellCEntryLib would just be a copy
> >
> ofhttps://github.com/tianocore/edk2/tree/master/MdePkg/Library/UefiAp
> > plicationEntryPoint
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew Fish
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marvin.
> > >
> > > From: Michael Zimmermann
> > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:32 AM
> > > To: Marvin Häuser
> > >
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;
> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> > >
> > > well for the patch to go upstream it would have to get improved a lot.
> > > I've tried to implement this in a way that doesn't need a different
> > > dsc but
> > the problem is that ShellLib's constructor ASSERT's if it can't find
> > the shell protocol and removing that would probably be against the spec's.
> > >
> > > Also it appears that the StdLib maintainers are kinda busy because
> > > most of
> > the StdLib patches I've sent to this mailing list didn't get reviewed.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Marvin Häuser
> >
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><ma
> >
> ilto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hey Michael,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your input! This looks interesting.
> > > Maybe it would be a good idea to provide the libraries that depend
> > > on Shell (in master) with functions that call ASSERT (FALSE); for
> > > drivers? I do not need file I/O, so I think your modifications might
> > > work out well for me. Would be very nice of course if such changes
> > > found their way upstream. :)
> > >
> > > And thank you very much for your comment as well, Andrew! It makes
> > sense that StdLib is primarily targeted at porting console
> > applications to UEFI Shell.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marvin.
> > >
> > > From: Michael Zimmermann
> > >
> >
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><ma
> > il
> > > to:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:28 PM
> > > To: Marvin H?user
> > >
> >
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><ma
> > ilto:
> > >
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> > > Cc:
> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:edk2-
> > > de [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > Subject: Re: [edk2] StdLib usage for drivers?
> > >
> > > In my fork of edk2 I've added support for using StdLib without the Shell.
> > > It's quite hacky(setenv/getenv are stubs, no File IO and maybe other
> > > things
> > hidden by linker GC and me not using all features).
> > >
> > > But depending on which StdLib features you need this can work pretty
> > good.
> > >
> > > here's the commit that does the magic:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/efidroid/edk2/commit/bf7a296718486bafaf774ea8bcf187
> > > c162c3c167
> > >
> > > and this is how you convert a Shell project to a NonShell one:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/efidroid/uefi_apps_EFIDroidUi/commit/23f0fa08108b8f
> > > 852564fae733c6a7bce62e2070
> > >
> > > as you can see it works by using StdLib with different
> > > libraries/cflags so you
> > have to compile your driver separately if there are other modules
> > which need the normal StdLib.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Marvin H?user
> >
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><ma
> >
> ilto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> >
> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >
> m><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:Marvin.Haeuser@outlook.
> > com>>>> wrote:
> > > Dear EDK2 developers,
> > >
> > > For an experimental project, I'm currently attempting to write a
> > > library
> > wrapper for the disassembler library 'Capstone' in a similar manner to
> > CryptoPkg's OpensslLib. As most C libraries, it also depends on the
> > standard headers, which are not provided by 'stock' EDK2. My first
> > guess has been to use StdLib, though its description states:
> > > 'Due to the execution environment built by the StdLib component,
> > execution as a UEFI driver can cause system stability issues.'
> > >
> > > Inspecting OpensslLib I discovered that CryptoPkg deploys its own
> > > include
> > files for StdLib. Though, from your experience, what are the issues
> > with using StdLibPkg with DXE/UEFI drivers? It might be nice to reduce
> > duplicate code, though I honestly don't know anything about StdLibPkg
> > and its implementation and would be thankful for some insight on that
> manner.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance for your time!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marvin.
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