On Mon, 8 May 2000, Khai L. Lai wrote:

> I'm sure some other stats expert out there will give a better
> explanation, but here's my take on your questions:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Do the null and alternative hypotheses have to be complements?  In
> > other words, can one set up a problem like:
> > 
> > H0: d = 0
> > H1: d <= 0
> No, this is not a valid alternative hypothesis.  By stating d <= 0 as
> your alternative hypothesis, you are essentially saying that the
> alternative hypothesis is the same as the null hypothesis, which is
> bogus.  The alternative hypothesis must either be d < 0, or d > 0, or 
> d != 0.  
                Correct so far.  (I assume by "!=" you mean "not equal".) 

> But strictly speaking, your null and alternative hypotheses do
> not have to be complements. 
                                Strictly speaking, the set of hypotheses 
(null plus one or more alternatives) must be mutually exclusive and 
exhaustive, which I suspect is what you mean by "complements".  Otherwise 
rejecting the null hypothesis does not afford a logical reason for 
accepting the alternative.

> As long as your alternative hypothesis is not contained in the set 
> defined by the null hypothesis, 
                                        Necessary but not sufficient.

> the hypotheses are valid.  
                                Hypotheses, as unconfirmed statements 
about the universe of discourse, are ALWAYS valid.  What you presumably 
meant here was the _set_ of hypotheses comprising null & alternative.

> Bear in mind also that you are not trying to prove the null hypothesis. 
> You never do that. 
                        I think your heart is in the right place, even 
if your language isn't, quite:  that is, I suspect you intend "prove" to 
have its corrupted meaning "demonstrate", rather than its root meaning 
"to test".  One is, in fact, testing the null hypothesis:  that's the 
only hypothesis for which a sampling distribution can be constructed, 
because it's the only hypothesis in the set that specifies a parameter 
value (that is, it's the only one with an "=" sign).  To put it in other 
terms, one is proving whether the null hypothesis be credible, on the 
basis of the evidence at hand.

> You are trying [ to prove the alternative hypothesis ]
> to see if the evidence is strong enough or not to reject the null
> hypothesis.
                Omitting the infinitive phrase I've enclosed [in 
brackets], this statement is correct.

> That is why it is valid to have 
> H_0: d > 0
> H_a: d < 0
                No, it is not.  No "=" sign in H_0.

> or 
> H_0: d = 0
> H_a: d < 0
                This is a not uncommon formulation, but is technically 
incorrect since the possibility  d > 0  is not represented in the set of 
hypotheses.  If the alternative is to be one-sided ( d < 0  in this 
example), the null must also be one-sided (here,  d >= 0 ).

> For the above two hypotheses, you have the same rejection region. 
                    ^^^^^^^^^^
You presumably meant "sets of hypotheses".  But since the first set is 
not a valid _set_ of hypotheses (for a formal hypothesis test), this 
assertion is more or less meaningless, if not incorrect.

> We do not really care about the H_0 being larger or equal to 0. 

Which implies that we need some decision rule for what to conclude should 
the data imply that  d > 0.  "We do not really care about  d  being 
larger or equal to 0" (as you should have phrased it!) implies that  
d > 0  has the same meaning and effect as  d = 0 ;  which in turn implies 
that both assertions should be included in the statement of  H_0.

> All we need is the relationship between the alternative hypothesis and 
> the null hypothesis.  
                        ... Once one has decided on a suitable set of 
null and alternative hypotheses.

        <  snip, the rest  >
                                        -- DFB.
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