minitab stores residulas easily if you want it to ... either in regression
... or, you can do a simple regression with line fitted and, option to save
residuals ... 

and you can do lots more ... anything you can get into a column ... or a
constant ... or matrix ... you can then save the worksheet containing those
values

for example ... say you have 3 predictors in c1 c2 c3 ... and a criterion
in c4 ... as a command you could:

mtb> regr c4 3 c1-c3;
subc> resi c5. 

c5 will have the residuals ... 

At 12:48 PM 6/8/00 -0500, Ken K. wrote:
>Its really a tough choice. They are both powerful packages.
>
>Both packages have gone well beyond your current Minitab 10. I also have
>to preface that I only have JMP 3.2 - I have not seen JMP 4 which has
>just been released.
>
>Both can do multiple regression about equally well.
>
>Minitab 13 has pretty easy to use checkbox options to create...
>-a histogram of residuals
>-a normal probability plot of residuals
>-a plot of residuals vs fit (y-hat)
>-a plot of residuals vs run order (order in worksheet)
>-a plot of residuals vs a specified variable
>Minitab also allows you to save the residuals to do other plotting.
>
>JMP 3 does an easy to obtain plot of residuals vs predicted (y-hat).
>Beyond that I think you need to save the residuals and do your own
>plots. JMP does allow you to save the residuals.
>
>By "generate estimates" I'll assume you mean that it calculates
>predicted values and the related error and confidence/prediction
>intervals....
>
>Minitab has an Options dialog box in which you can enter either
>individual values for x1, x2, ... or you can enter variable names that
>contain a list of multiple x1's, x2's, etc. The output includes the fit
>(y-hat), SE of fit, and the confidence & prediction intervals (you can
>select the confidence level).
>
>In JMP you can save predicted values (probably includes any obs. w/
>missing actual), SE of predicted, SE of individual, and confidence
>(Prediction Conf.) and prediction (Indiv. Conf.) intervals. Pretty much
>the same thing.
>
>For exploratory data analysis they are pretty close. Its pretty much a
>toss up.
>
>One other thing if it makes a difference, JMP has a nonlinear fitting
>tool; Minitab does not.
>
>My own thoughts (I've provided both packages to engineers in the past)
>in general is that Minitab is clearly easier to use for the occasional
>user (not my opinion but that of my engineers). To get the most out of
>JMP you need to be a fairly regular user, since many of its tools are
>somewhat hidden.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Time for me to upgrade from Minitab 10.2 to the
>> new millenium. The current versions of both
>> Minitab and JMP have been recommended to me. The
>> analyses I primarily do are:
>> 1) developing predictive models for a fishery
>> management agency using multiple regression (2-3
>> independent variables),
>> 2) examination of the residuals from such models,
>> 3) generate estimates from the models, and
>> 4) general exploratory data analyses.
>>
>> One feature in particular that I would like to
>> see are built-in options to plot the predicted
>> and actual Y vs. the actual Y, and the residuals
>> against the various independent variables and Y.
>>
>> I would also be interested in software that has
>> Bayesian tools.
>>
>> So, which one - Minitab or JMP? Comments?
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>
>
>
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