On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Paul Velleman wrote:

> I'm not real comfortable with a polynomial model that takes nearly 
> half the available degrees of freedom and offers no theoretical 
> motivation. 

"Comfortable" is not a word that much occurs to mind in the context of 
polynomial models.  From the point of view of teaching about modelling, 
polynomial models permit one to show a number of things, here mentioned 
in no particular order:
  +  Whatever functions may be theoretically justified as models, one 
        can find a polynomial that will more or less adequately describe 
        any empirical shape of function.  Even if one has no idea what 
        kind(s) of function may be theoretically appropriate.
  +  Any polynomial will rather rapidly zoom off toward infinity (or 
        negative infinity) if you try to extrapolate beyond the range
        of the data;  as Bob Hayden illustrated with one data set.
        Interpolation within that range may even have some problems, 
        as Paul and I have both noted in the chicks data.
  +  Although polynomial shapes are often described in stereotypical 
        terms (quadratic = parabola = 1 bend in the function;  cubic 
        = 2 bends;  etc.), particular polynomials may not appear to 
        display the stereotypical shape (1 bend "implies" quadratic, 
        2 bends "imply" cubic, etc.).  The chicks data exhibit only one 
        bend, but a quadratic fit is not satisfactory, a cubic fit does 
        not show two bends unless you look carefully (or extrapolate to 
        the left), etc.
  +  Using orthogonal polynomial components as predictors in developing 
        an empirical model has certain conveniences (well described in, 
        e.g., Draper & Smith, so I won't go into detail here).

> I'd rather fit log(wt) on day. 
                                        Agreed.  (Any day!-)  
 This has the further virtue of permitting "doubling time" to be 
defined and estimated, for the range in which the exponential growth 
function appears to be an adequate description.  (Exponential growth 
always eventually comes to be dominated by some limiting factor(s) 
inherent either in the system exhibiting such growth or in the 
environment in which it takes place.  Extrapolation is no more to be 
trusted for such a model than for a polynomial.)

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