Mark Glickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8mpu19$s57$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8mpu19$s57$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In sci.stat.edu Petr Kuzmic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> : "Gordon D. Pusch" wrote:
> :> When I was in Grad-school, if I allocated only the the Departmental
> :> ``officially expected'' amount of time to grading the reports for the
> :> Physics Labs I taught, I would have needed to grade them at the rate of
> :> one per every 1.5 minutes --- hardly enough time to even *read* them,
> :> let alone effectively comment on any errors in them !!!  :-(
>
> : I think Mark is interested in "efficient" lectureship, not necessarily
> : in effective pedagogy.  From the point of "efficiency", I can see how a
> : class with three one-hour lectures per week could be reduced to _six_
> : hours a week of total work load.
>
> : How? Just cut out any lecture preparation (teach from the book), grading
> : (you _do_ have a grader), supervision (the TA should know what s/he's
> : doing in discussion, and if they don't it's not your fault), don't
> : answer any email from students, and limit your office hours to 45
> : minutes per week.

I don't think you need to teach from the book.  I spent the last 4 years
teaching 15 credits a year in introductory classes in statistics.  The
content is fairly simple and interesting.  I found that experience lets you
cut your prep time and that e-mail questions greatly reduces the office
hours.  You don't get questions like "I don't understand anything...".  The
students usually have to think about their question and be precise before
they put it in an e-mail.  I rarely had to spend more than 2 hours a week in
answering e-mails to more than 350 students (not all of them asked
questions) !  Most books have problems and applications (I used my own but
that's me) and with graders and an assistant, well...  it's a gas !

>
> : Voila`, it can be done.  Mark, I stand corrected.  Now, would you want
> : _your_ kid to take a Statistics class like that?
>
> I'm mystified that my post has generated such a negative reaction.
> It would be great to have a lecturer who was willing to
> devote as much time as Petr is willing to.  On the other hand,
> don't forget that we're advertising a part-time temporary
> position that is meant to attract someone with a (mostly)
> full-time job who shouldn't be expected to work more than 10
> hours per week.  Frankly, with the resources available
> (e.g., class notes from other faculty who have taught the
> course) the preparation time could be minimal.  I,
> personally, spend quite a bit more than 10 hours per week
> per class (writing up handouts, web-related material, etc.)
> because it is part of my career development, and I enjoy
> teaching well.
>
> By the way, $5000 salary for a course is quite competitive
> for teaching in the Boston area, so at least the market deems that our
> salary is fair, even if Petr doesn't.

I was paid 5000$ a class and it was Canadian money !  Not even real money.
I would  volonteer but I live too far...


Dr Julie Lamoureux, dmd, MSc
Tampa, Florida
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