At 10:41 AM 1/2/01 +0000, Bokhorst, Frank wrote:
>Bob Hayden asked:
>
> > Anybody have anything to say about statistical education???
>
>I would like to turn the question round, and ask if it might be
>possible to summarize relevant material from the recent discussion
>on the forum about the US election saga into a form suitable for
>teaching purposes?

this would be valuable ...

certainly, there are SOME issues related to sampling ... and errors thereto 
... that have import ... but, there are also many other issues, not 
necessarily related to statistical principles ... such as, measurement 
errors ...

one issue that keeps coming up in this context is the notion of "margin of 
error" ... and while this has a rather precise statistical meaning in the 
context of sampling related to some statistic (in the context of estimating 
a certain parameter), i feel that the term has been used in so many ways 
that, it has lost that specific meaning JUST because of the election

in a previous posts, which i can't find now, i tried to categorize this 
process into 3 rough categories which were something like: (under the 
assumption that what we are trying to do is to find out the true wishes of 
those who actually make the effort to vote)

1. pre voters' cognitive situation ... that is, how clear in the voter's 
mind IS their choice PRIOR to election day

2. voting day ... the processes surrounding the actual voting .... (some of 
which are in control of the voter, some are not)

3. post voting issues ... well, the votes get tallied somehow and we DID 
have recounts, right?

anyway, whether this is a functional way to slice up the overall process or 
not, i am not sure but however one might do it, we could attempt to see to 
what extent "statistical" notions play some/no role in each component of 
the process

so, i think it would be of value to follow up on frank's suggestion ... and 
see to what extent we can separate the wheat ... from the chads (that is, 
real statistical issues)

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dennis roberts, educational psychology
penn state university, 208 cedar building
university park, pa USA 16802 ... AC 8148632401
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