dennis roberts wrote:

> i was not really looking for the "crafty" way but ... a simple and 
> direct interpretation (if one IS possible)
> 
> say ... we have some concern about whether the average IQ is still 100 
> in the general population ... as test publishers say (of course, 
> herman rubin would say that we know that this null is NOT really 
> (exactly) true ... but, let's put this aside for the moment)
> 
> now, we take (if this is really possible) a random sample of 100 ... 
> do a simple t test with the null being 100 and ... the p value comes 
> out to be ..08 ... TEST A
> 
> or, this test turned up a p value of .02 ... TEST B
> 
> or, this test turned up a p value of .008 ... TEST C
> 
> assume for a moment that we did things correctly in terms of sampling, 
> run the right test, assumptions met,  etc.
> 
> are we able to accurately say ... that if we had the results as in 
> TEST C .... that we are more convinced that the null of 100 is NOT 
> true ... than for TEST B or TEST A?
> 
> no ifs, ands, or buts or it depends on this or that ... just straight 
> talking ... can we say this?

Yes.  So shoot me., already!

A technically correct conclusion is:  The sample of 100 has a mu 
different than 100.  there is a 0.08 prob ability (or 0.02, or 0.008) 
that this statement is false.

Have I not said the same thing?  As p gets small, we are more confident 
that the null hypothesis is not valid.
Jay

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