On 24 Aug 2003 15:58:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Burrill) wrote:

> Hi, Dennis.
>  You did not address the question, so far as I can see.  You stated an
> answer, which I take to be your personal opinion on the point, but you
> supplied no supporting arguments.
>  I had asked "are those properly called 'z' scores?", because z scores
> are commonly defined in terms of population values (aka parameters),
> while the values I was questioning were calculated from sample values.
>  Possibly a minor and not-very-interesting point, but I'm unwilling to
> take an unsupported assertion as a reasoned reply ;-).
> 

Hey, Donald, 
So far, I have to side with Dennis on this one.

I've never thought twice about people scoring up  <whatever
they have>  as  z-scores, and calling them z-scores.  And we
never have population values, so we would never have z-scores,
if that is what we were supposed to use.  

So I guess it seems to me to be "an unsupported assertion" that
z-scores are "commonly defined in terms of population values."

I will agree that for descriptive purposes, it is much nicer to have
a very large N  than a small one, but that's always been the case.
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