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sci.stat.edu, Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Anyones help with the below would be appreciated.

I'll help, if you'll promise not to post the same article multiple 
times in future. This is Usenet, and it may take quite some time 
even for your own article to show up on your own server, let alone 
any replies.

>"500 students took an exam, the mean was 69 and the standard deviation was
>7.  if the grades have a mound shape distribution, how many students
>recieved a grade of more than 83"

[summary of what Mel said:
z = 2; 68-95-99.7 rule says 95% of data occur -2 < z < 2, therefore 
2.5% of data are above z = 2. 2.5% of 500 is 12.5 students]

Your calculation is correct. I congratulate you for going further 
and actually thinking about what this _means_! Perhaps I can help 
with the interpretation.

>I have no idea if the above is correct ( I don't think it is), but it
>dosen't seem logical that 12.5 students recieved more than 83, as I've never
>encountered a half person before! I think I've missed something..

The empirical rule tells you that _about_ 2.5% of the data will lie 
above z = 2 in a normal distribution, not that _exactly_ 2.5% will 
lie above. The smaller the population, the less closely it will 
approach an ideal normal distribution and therefore the less good 
that empirical rule will be. For 500 students the approximation 
should not be too bad, _if_ the underlying distribution is 
normal.(*) So your calculation correctly tells you that _about_ 12.5 
students will have scores over 83. You would simply state this as 
about 12 or 13 students.

(*) I'm a little uneasy about that "mound shape distribution" in the 
problem statement. I hope you understand, Mel, that the empirical 
rule does not apply to every mound-shaped distribution but only to 
normal distributions. Other mound-shaped distributions will differ 
from the empirical rule to a greater or lesser extent.

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