There's a great introductory book by Kachigan which drives home the
important things to know about the CLT for a basic understanding of its
application to reality. It is called "Multivariate Statistical Analysis:
A Conceptual Introduction". IMO: highly recommended reading for
non-statisticians.

Pradyumna S Upadrashta, PhD Student
Grad Prog in Scientific Computation
University of Minnesota


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>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Spuzzz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>OK all you statistical junkies are going to jump on my case 
>now.  From 
>>what I understand this is one of, if not the most important proofs in 
>>all of statistics.  And I just don't get it.
>
>>I remember learning it in college, where I must admit, I was more 
>>interested in getting a passing grade, than truly understanding the 
>>concept.  Now I would like to change that.
>
>>So I understand the mathematical conclusions that are drawn 
>-- that by 
>>drawing enough samples means, you will approach a normal distribution 
>>even if the population distribution is not normal.  It's kind 
>of cool, 
>>but what I don't understand is, what is the practical 
>implication?  We 
>>are talking about taking multiple samples and then looking at the 
>>distribution of the mean of each  sample.
>
>You are correct.  The distribution of the sample mean 
>for distributions with finite variances APPROACHES a
>normal distribution, but is not a normal distribution
>unless the original distribution is normal.
>
>>This would be very useful if it said something like, the means and/or 
>>variances of a sample are similar to the means/variances of a 
>>population.  But it doesn't say that!  It only talks about 
>the means of 
>>multiple samples having a normal distribution.
>
>>Here's one thing that I read:
>>"...we can use the normal distribution with virtually any 
>population we 
>>are likely to encounter, all we have to do is grab a nice big sample 
>>and take the average of the sample..."
>
>Whoever wrote this does not understand the CLT.
>
>>So what is so great about using a normal distribution?  It 
>must be the 
>>basis of later statistical techniques.  But statistician's are 
>>frequently excited about the CLT, as if by itself it has obvious 
>>practical applications (like say the pythagorean theorem)...
>
>Those who understand probability are not that excited about
>the CLT, as they know about the errors.  However, the CLT
>and the results about well-behaved transformations does
>give results about the limiting distribution of statistical 
>analyses, and this is often all that can be reasonably used.
>
>For example, in regular problems, the twice the logarithm
>of the likelihood ratio, in likelihood ratio tests, is 
>asymptotically chi-squared with the usual numbers of degrees 
>of freedom.  Tests for regression coefficients are 
>asymptotically correct.  Tests for correlations for values 
>other than 0 are not.
>
>Least square and similar procedures are good despite lack of 
>normality, but they are not maximum likelihood, provided that 
>one does not disturb the underlying linear structure.  Any 
>attempt to make the observations more normal is likely to 
>destroy any useful structure.  Normality is NOT usually 
>important, and probably never occurs in nature.
>
>>Please excuse my ignorance...
>
>Ignorance is not a sin.  Ignoring it is.
>-- 
>This address is for information only.  I do not claim that 
>these views are those of the Statistics Department or of 
>Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, 
>Purdue University
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