> But one that has only been exasperated by an initiatives like CP4E. >
Exacerbated? > Do I have a right to resent the fact that I have needed to make myself > into a pain-in-the-ass, and face insult, within the Python community in > order to try to re-direct its thinking in approaching the educational > community and positioning Python as a factor within it. > > Whether I do or not, I do. > > Art Hmmmm. Methinks you over-dramatize. Most of the Python community (always changing/growing) isn't aware of these little tempests in teapots, nor is there some monolithic "hive mind" that characterizes all thinking Pythonic. You've taken aim at bloated, graphics-intensive environments (like Alice) that insulate students from learning any real programming, giving them instead some dumbed down command set and a lot of gee whiz razzle-dazzle. No real maturity develops. I appreciate the concern and share it to some degree. It all comes down to diet. A little Alice is OK, like a little cheesecake. Better work out in the gym with LISP afterwards. But I don't think you needed to make your points at the cost of casting yourself as a pariah, ostracized prophet or whatever. You're just a guy with a strong point of view. There's plenty of room for that around here. If you really want the bouncers to throw you out of the bar, so you can *really* feel bitter, you'll have to do better than that -- plus stop being so funny. Kirby _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
