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From: John Zelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, September 8, 2006 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The fate of raw_input() in Python 3000
To: edu-sig@python.org
> On Friday 08 September 2006 1:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > From: "Radenski, Atanas"
> >
> > > You are obviously way more intelligent than the average student
> > > whom we need to teach.
> >
> > Standardized testing seems to indicate me to be a good deal to
> the better
> > spectrum of the bell curve.
> >
> > But I honestly believe all that buys me is the ability to be a
> > run-of-the-mill-programmer.
>
> Perhaps, but no where near a run-of-the-mill student.
>
> > I certainly have no feeling of being anything other than
> within the middle
> > of pack in terms of native intelligence among those who
> actually eventually
> > get some grasp.
> >
> > I honestly feel that curriculum geared to some a population
> substanitally> different than myself can only being some form of
> busywork for all
> > concerned -
> >
> > as unpleasant as that might sound to those who percieve that
> to be their
> > employment.
> >
>
> That's assuming that the goal of said education is to produce
> professional
> programmers. I believe that everyone has something to gain from
> learning what
> software is really all about. Most will not rise to the level of
> professional
> (or even competent) programmer. Similary, most students taking
> English
> classes will never become successful novelists. Does that mean
> all the others
> are just doing busywork? I've always thought you a champion of
> liberal
> learning, don't all students deserve to have their intellectual
> worlds
> expanded to the extent possible?
>
> --John
>
> ps. That's really, really, my last post. Unless someone actually
> wants to
> discuss the substance of the arguments I've made earlier. If
> challenged, I'll
> probably take the bait...
>
> --
> John M. Zelle, Ph.D. Wartburg College
> Professor of Computer Science Waverly, IA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (319) 352-8360
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