On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Scott Balneaves<[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:29:30PM -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote: > > The nat services are only required when running LTSP as a localapp, which is > pretty much a new feature for Jaunty. > > Besides, go take a look at the old LTSP 4.2 wiki. At least you don't have to > re-compile kernels anymore :D
I'm not sure if you realize that with the K12LTSP, turning on NAT for non-clients on a LAN was initially a matter of chkconfig xxxx on, and later it was just automagic. I know because I still deploy and support Centos-based K12LTSP installations where the hardware profile is old. I use DRBL for newer hardware. I am preparing to re-engage Debian-Edu which, thanks to your explanations, is now the foundation of the work Edubuntu. > >> Please consider changing the description of this project on the Users >> mailing list until it becomes what it claims. Until then, you are >> damaging the good work that is already there and to which many are >> pleasantly contributing. > > Not quite sure how to take this. If the implication is that you perceive I'm > damaging the project, then my apologies. I'm simply passionate about this > project, LTSP, and Linux in general, and calling the shots as I see them. > > All I'm saying is we need more help to accomplish the goals we'd like meet. > If > you, or anyone else can point to anything I've posted on this thread, or > indeed, any thread dating back to the beginning of edubuntu-devel, > edubuntu-users, ltsp-discuss, or any of the other lists I'm involved with that > I've actively been involved with that's been derogatory, or mean spirited, > then > I'll apologise for it. And if you've mis-interpreted my passion for this as > hectoring, I apologise for that too. > > But I beleive in this project. It's accomplished some pretty cool things, and > I want it to accomplish so much more. You, Scott, are a brave and noble man to take ownership of "you". Your commitment to the LTSP's success is beyond commendable, and you must know how much I and certainly thousands of others appreciate it. I truly do. "You" is a terrible term for me to use in these impassioned discussions because it can be both singular and plural. It could be easily be read as you (Scott) when I mean you (amorphous edubuntu entity/community). Unless you alone made all these decisions, my use of "you" is more in the plural and aimed towards that early collection of decisions not only *not* to build upon Debian-Edu, at that time called Skolelinux, but also to replace LTSP 4.2 with LTSP 5 between the Edubuntu 7.04. and 7.10 releases. It was, as we all know, a huge nightmare. It's great that things have changed. There is no doubt that your work on the LTSP 4.2 and LTSP 5 will resonate for years to come. This is clear. I just have a single-minded focus on the end-user at times, and I have worried, and expressed so, that the glorious light always shone by *buntu has suffered here in the mud of making Edubuntu as automagic and as easy as its promise. Given the new hand-in-hand collaboration with Debian-Edu, I know that it will be easier to focus on the features and distinctions that have always made *buntu releases appealing. Obviously there is a lot more room for "we" in our future discussions. I think most of these stresses have been the function of unrealistic expectations. Take this out of the equation, and you've got a bunch of people who like working on something together and are eager to see it succeed. > > Cheers, > Scott Aloha --scott -- edubuntu-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
