Thanks to all for the information. I've removed network-manager network-manager-gnome from my server.
I appreciate the help! John On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Andy Figueroa <[email protected]> wrote: > The first think I do after a new install of Ubuntu or Mint for a desktop at > the school, is disable nm-applet (provided by network-manager-gnome) or > discard it all together. The last thing in the world you want one of your > desktop users to do is to click on the darned thing. But, for the laptop > users, it's terrific. What is irritating is nm-applet's lack of > transparency with regard to its configuration files. I do NOT use in on my > own computers. > > Andy Figueroa > > Gavin McCullagh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009, john wrote: >> >>> I guess I don't understand how network-manager, dbus-subsystem, etc, >>> etc, work with regards to networking. I feel like it's getting harder >>> and harder to figure out "who's in charge" >> >> I feel your pain. You get to know how to use a whole heap of config files >> and commands and then the goal posts move 40 yards left. >> >> Perhaps ironically, this is all done in the name of simplicity for users -- >> so they don't have to edit the config files. I have to say it has helped >> me when I was able to point and click a cisco VPN set up through network >> manager in thirty seconds. I did manage to set it up using the config >> files too, but it was definitely quicker and easier using network manager. >> If Ubuntu is to be a real desktop solution, your marketing director needs >> to be able to set up a VPN with either no or minimal help over the phone >> from his IT staff. Config files are not an option. >> >> Windows went through a similar process back around v3.1 -> v95. Up to 3.1, >> practically every application (opera, netscape, paint shop pro, ...) and >> even Windows itself had its own .ini file. Some of those settings were >> configurable in the UI but many of them you just had to open the .ini file >> and edit it yourself. As a geek, I used to like that "simple" way to get >> straight to the application's settings. Then the windows registry became >> the place to store all this. I never got the hang of it¹. >> >> Gnome went through a similar thing with gconf which I've never really >> gotten the hang of either. On the other hand, I very rarely need to know >> anything about it. >> >> It's good and bad at the same time. Your life is simplified until you want >> to do something they haven't (yet) implemented simplicity for. >> >> Gavin >> >> ¹ Shortly afterward, I bought my first PC running Windows 98 first edition >> and the horror of it made me try Redhat 6.1. I haven't actively used >> a Windows desktop since. >> >> > > -- > edubuntu-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users > -- edubuntu-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
