Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly. And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor base, to make it easier for it to become one).
Regards, Sam. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour <[email protected]> wrote: > Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit : > >>> Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. >>> I've >>> already sent a message about it more than a year ago. >>> It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched in >>> Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : >>> http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; http://it.vikidia.org/ >> >> I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger >> students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my >> city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade >> previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our >> help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue >> editing after the workshop... > > > We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do their > topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a > class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are > ready or willing to all round the year... :-) > > So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be > involved in the wiki. > We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article that > was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect or > expansion). > > >> The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more >> general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers. >> >> In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for >> experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main >> issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia >> embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be >> a meaningful learning for their students. >> >> Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to >> encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical >> possibilities of the projects. > > > That must be about the 1% rule > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 > As well as to be amenable to active learning > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a > tool for it. > > By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, > Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting > es.vikidia ? > Wikimédia France already does. > > Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, > say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a great > work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even a > significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living > models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia. > > Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could think > about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English Wikipedia. > > May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : > Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) > http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526 > > Salutations, > > > -- > Mathias Damour > 49 rue Carnot > F-74000 Annecy > 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 > 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 > http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays > [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
