Mathias, Two suggestions:
* Get some input from people involved in Vikidia-es and -it, wikikids.nl, and the Grundschulwiki. I don't think anyone else would want to use that name if the existing Dutch group didn't want to join. * Describe a potential schedule for a migration to WMF hosting. See the history of the Wikivoyage page and the OmegaWiki page for examples. SJ On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Mathias Damour <[email protected]> wrote: > Le 12/02/2013 12:14, Samuel Klein a écrit : > >> Nice to see this thread. I've been thinking about Vikidia recenntly. >> >> And Mathias, while I've said it elsewhere, I am glad that you have >> recently been updating that proposal page on Meta. It is a natural >> candidate to be a sister project - and at least to get some >> cross-project publicity (which can help build a project's contributor >> base, to make it easier for it to become one). >> >> Regards, >> Sam. > > > Thanks Samuel ! > > I would be glad to know what are the next steps you would think are the most > opportune for that. > Is it to gather more material, texts to write or translate to let understand > better what the project is about ? > > > >> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Mathias Damour >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Le 04/02/2013 00:53, Lila Pagola a écrit : >>> >>>>> Vikidia is an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8 to 13 years old children. >>>>> I've >>>>> already sent a message about it more than a year ago. >>>>> It exists in French, Spanish and Italian (and is about to be launched >>>>> in >>>>> Russian) whereas another group opened it in dutch : >>>>> http://fr.vikidia.org/ ; http://es.vikidia.org/ ; >>>>> http://it.vikidia.org/ >>>> >>>> I know Vikidia and I think is a very useful alternative for younger >>>> students... Once I did an experience in a primary school here in my >>>> city, Córdoba, and it worked well... Aroud 20 kids of fifth grade >>>> previously prepared a topic of their interest and they edited with our >>>> help (their teacher and me). But till I know, they didn't continue >>>> editing after the workshop... >>> >>> >>> We have some school working on fr.vikidia.org, and they mostly just do >>> their >>> topic and don't get involved on a permanent basis (with an exception, a >>> class in which pupils seem to be free to create an article when they are >>> ready or willing to all round the year... :-) >>> >>> So we need a permanent community beyond those classroom projects to be >>> involved in the wiki. >>> We recently had a school that made their pupils write about 50 article >>> that >>> was dictionary-like entry, so we had to deal with it (deletion, redirect >>> or >>> expansion). >>> >>> >>>> The problem I have found, not only in this case, so maybe it's a more >>>> general problem, it's how to share our commitment with other teachers. >>>> >>>> In some cases, digital literacy of teachers is very basic for >>>> experimenting with Wikipedia. But in most of cases, I guess, the main >>>> issue is they don't know the free culture dynamics that Wikipedia >>>> embodies, and how participating of such a project from school could be >>>> a meaningful learning for their students. >>>> >>>> Maybe someone in this list has a kind of "tip" about this... how to >>>> encourage teachers to appropriate themselves of the pedagogical >>>> possibilities of the projects. >>> >>> >>> That must be about the 1% rule >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29 >>> As well as to be amenable to active learning >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_learning and to choose the wiki as a >>> tool for it. >>> >>> By the way what about existing chapter such as Wikimedia Argentina, >>> Wikimedia España, México, Venezuela, Chile supporting and promoting >>> es.vikidia ? >>> Wikimédia France already does. >>> >>> Anyway, people that would be willing to take in charge the promotion and, >>> say, "community building" of es.vikidia are welcomed and could make a >>> great >>> work ! Since the wiki already exists, has some significant content, even >>> a >>> significant audience (40.000 unique visitors a month) and has living >>> models/patterns in both fr.vikidia, wikikids.nl and es.wikipedia. >>> >>> Open a wikikids/vikidia in English would be another thing... We could >>> think >>> about it as well, but we would have to think about simple English >>> Wikipedia. >>> >>> May you read (again ?) in spanish and french : >>> Vikidia y la documentación (Las ideas de Freinet con nuevas herramientas) >>> http://irisfernandez.com.ar/betaweblog/?p=1526 >>> >>> Salutations, >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mathias Damour >>> 49 rue Carnot >>> F-74000 Annecy >>> 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 >>> 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 >>> http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Education mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >> >> >> >> -- >> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 > > > -- > Mathias Damour > 49 rue Carnot > F-74000 Annecy > 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 > 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 > [email protected] > http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays > > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
