Thanks, Vojtěch. Resending this with James CCed (for some reason he was ommitted from the thread).
Shani. On 29 Sep 2015 11:43, "Vojtěch Dostál" <[email protected]> wrote: > I am with Shani on this. After WMF stopped the technical support of the > extension, the old bugs remained unsolved and new [even more dangerous] > ones were found. Education programs run in 70 countries worldwide and an > increasing number of countries wants to employ the extension to keep track > of their increasing number of students. This should be a high-priority > thing for the foundation, given the importance of education programs in > promoting and improving Wikipedia. The current extension should get a > person responsible for developing it and fixing bugs ASAP; otherwise it is > a waste of money and resources for both WMF and local communities which > want to run education programs efficiently. > > This doesn't mean that a new Extension cannot be a solution in the > long-term. A realistic guess is that it wouldn't be ready within the next > year, though. The decision should be discussed with the Wikimedia Education > community and, best, coordinated by people from the Education Collab. We > are a group of volunteers who often use the extension and recommend it to > other program leaders. We should get regular updates on the situation so > that we stay up-to-date and can inform others of the situation. The > information that Education extension is not to be deployed on any new wiki > was not announced at all. I understand you might not want to go into detail > for security reasons, but the information itself should have been > announced. > > Thank for taking the situation seriously. > > > > > Vojtěch Dostál > > předseda rady / chairman of the board > Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic > http://www.wikimedia.cz > Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR> | Newsletter <http://eepurl.com/FsHJr> > > > 2015-09-29 2:32 GMT+02:00 Shani <[email protected]>: > >> James, >> >> After reading your reply to Craig, it is important for me to make sure >> that members of the Wiki-EDU community are part of the discussion of >> exploring other tools. >> >> This affects all of our work and some of us have put hours and hours of >> volunteer work into working with it and developing teaching practices with >> it. >> >> While this tool has never been perfect, it's all we have. And while for >> you this issue might be just another technical glitch that needs fixing, >> for me, and for other educators, it's our wiki (and academic) life. >> It matters and we care. >> >> Since we are the ones with the practical experience working with the >> extension thus far, and know best what's working well, what's not, what's >> missing, etc., I believe it would be beneficial for all parties to make >> sure this experience does not go into waste. >> >> I understand the complexity of working on something like this with too >> many a people. >> *So may I suggest a task force with reps. from the education team as well >> as volunteers with hands-on experience? * >> >> Just to be clear, I'm not trying to step on any toes here; just want to >> make sure the community's interests are part of the discussion and >> decisions that affect our day-to-day are not taken without considering us. >> >> Sincerely, >> Shani. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:04 AM, James Alexander < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey Craig, >>> >>> We're hoping to get the stop-gap in place within the week. Longer >>> term... it's difficult to say. It's deep enough that we're not entirely >>> sure we can 'fix' the extension but will look into that in addition to >>> other options and other tools. >>> >>> James Alexander >>> Manager >>> Trust & Safety >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Craig Franklin < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Floor, >>>> >>>> Is there any ETA on when we can expect this remedial work to be >>>> completed? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Craig Franklin >>>> >>>> 2015-09-29 8:09 GMT+10:00 Floor Koudijs <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Dear Filip, >>>>> >>>>> I am so very sorry to hear about these frustrations with the >>>>> deployment of the Education Extension. The problem is that there have been >>>>> recent security issues with the extension. Engineering and our Trust & >>>>> Safety department are working on some stop gaps to allow the extension to >>>>> remain in place (and likely be deployed) while we determine what to do >>>>> with >>>>> the recent security issues. >>>>> >>>>> Please rest assured that we are working hard both on keeping the >>>>> Education Extension going, and on thinking about a better tool to replace >>>>> it for the future. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to follow up if you have any further questions. I've cc-ed >>>>> James Alexander here. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Floor Koudijs >>>>> >>>>> Senior Manager, Wikipedia Education Program >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> >>>>> +1.415.839.6885 x6806 (landline) >>>>> >>>>> +1.415.692.5289 (cell phone) >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> education.wikimedia.org >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Filip Maljkovic <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, a security issue has been found with Education extension. >>>>>> As a result, new requests for installing the extension on Wikimedia wikis >>>>>> are being "stalled", i.e. blocked for an indeterminate period. Can >>>>>> someone >>>>>> from the Foundation comment on this? I don't see why we shouldn't install >>>>>> the extension to more wikis, if the current installations are still >>>>>> working >>>>>> as-is (i.e. they're not being uninstalled because of the security issue, >>>>>> as >>>>>> far as I know). >>>>>> >>>>>> While it might be a long shot, is it possible to influence this >>>>>> decision somehow? >>>>>> >>>>>> I feel thoroughly disappointed, having held community discussion and >>>>>> vote, and then waiting for a month (!) for no apparent reason, just to be >>>>>> outright told that it's unlikely to happen anytime soon. [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110619 >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Filip Maljković >>>>>> Wikimedia Serbia >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Education mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Education mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Education mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Education mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >
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