We could turn on email bundling for the email problem, basically it
utilizes delayed job queue. It sends one initial unbundled email, then send
bundled emails every 4 hours


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Danny Horn <[email protected]> wrote:

> The new version of subscriptions and notifications has been out on
> Mediawiki.org for almost a week, and we're learning some interesting stuff
> so far. Some of it is working as intended (and therefore awesome), some of
> it is buggy and needs fixing, and we're getting some feedback on what's not
> quite working right.
>
> I've seen some grumbles -- some on WP:Talk:Flow [1], some on MW:Talk:Flow
> [2], and some from people in the office -- that are basically about two
> things: Email notifications, and Subscribing to a board.
>
>
>
> *Subscribing to a board*
> We had a lot of discussion about what subscribing to a Flow board would
> mean. Basically, we had two options:
>
> A) You get an Echo notification that a new topic has been created
> B) You get automatically subscribed to every new topic created on the board
>
> We hypothesized that A would work better for people who look at Echo more
> than their watchlist, and B would work better for people who look at their
> watchlist more than Echo.
>
> We needed to pick one to try out and see how it feels, so we chose B,
> which was closer to the way that watching a page works right now.
>
> What we're hearing from the feedback this week is that people are feeling
> spammed -- subscribed to too many topics that they're not interested in. I
> think it would be reasonable to switch it to A -- that would also solve the
> "two notifications for the same action" problem that we're currently having
> with one notification for "created a topic" and another for "posted the
> first message," which is the same thing.
>
> So I'll talk to Erik and Benny, and anybody else who cares, and we'll
> figure that out. Does anyone have thoughts about it?
>
>
>
>
> *Email notifications*
> Oh, and then we also didn't pay attention to email notifications, and
> therefore we ruined the world and I feel moderately bad about it. We're
> sending one email per post on a thread, which is obviously too much.
>
> I think the right answer there is to follow the example of watchlist
> emails -- send the first one, and then don't send any more until the user
> visits the Topic page. That's how watchlist works, and I think it's fine.
> I'll make a card and we should probably jump on that as soon as we can, so
> we stop ruining email.
>
> I'm also interested in thoughts on that, if anyone has some.
>
> And then we keep on Flowing. Peace out.
>
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> [1]: WP:Talk:Flow feedback --
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flow#Problems_accessing_mediawiki_flow_page_-_and_too_many_Echo_notifications
>
> [2]: MW:Talk:Flow feedback --
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:S17tpg980s0mjuvi
>
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