Also the 4 hour interval is configurable, we can set it to much lower in
testing environment like beta-labs


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Benny Situ <[email protected]> wrote:

> We could turn on email bundling for the email problem, basically it
> utilizes delayed job queue. It sends one initial unbundled email, then send
> bundled emails every 4 hours
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Danny Horn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The new version of subscriptions and notifications has been out on
>> Mediawiki.org for almost a week, and we're learning some interesting stuff
>> so far. Some of it is working as intended (and therefore awesome), some of
>> it is buggy and needs fixing, and we're getting some feedback on what's not
>> quite working right.
>>
>> I've seen some grumbles -- some on WP:Talk:Flow [1], some on MW:Talk:Flow
>> [2], and some from people in the office -- that are basically about two
>> things: Email notifications, and Subscribing to a board.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Subscribing to a board*
>> We had a lot of discussion about what subscribing to a Flow board would
>> mean. Basically, we had two options:
>>
>> A) You get an Echo notification that a new topic has been created
>> B) You get automatically subscribed to every new topic created on the
>> board
>>
>> We hypothesized that A would work better for people who look at Echo more
>> than their watchlist, and B would work better for people who look at their
>> watchlist more than Echo.
>>
>> We needed to pick one to try out and see how it feels, so we chose B,
>> which was closer to the way that watching a page works right now.
>>
>> What we're hearing from the feedback this week is that people are feeling
>> spammed -- subscribed to too many topics that they're not interested in. I
>> think it would be reasonable to switch it to A -- that would also solve the
>> "two notifications for the same action" problem that we're currently having
>> with one notification for "created a topic" and another for "posted the
>> first message," which is the same thing.
>>
>> So I'll talk to Erik and Benny, and anybody else who cares, and we'll
>> figure that out. Does anyone have thoughts about it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Email notifications*
>> Oh, and then we also didn't pay attention to email notifications, and
>> therefore we ruined the world and I feel moderately bad about it. We're
>> sending one email per post on a thread, which is obviously too much.
>>
>> I think the right answer there is to follow the example of watchlist
>> emails -- send the first one, and then don't send any more until the user
>> visits the Topic page. That's how watchlist works, and I think it's fine.
>> I'll make a card and we should probably jump on that as soon as we can, so
>> we stop ruining email.
>>
>> I'm also interested in thoughts on that, if anyone has some.
>>
>> And then we keep on Flowing. Peace out.
>>
>>
>> Danny
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]: WP:Talk:Flow feedback --
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flow#Problems_accessing_mediawiki_flow_page_-_and_too_many_Echo_notifications
>>
>> [2]: MW:Talk:Flow feedback --
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:S17tpg980s0mjuvi
>>
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