I am very happy to see such strong interest in VE from the education communitty.
FYI, if we don't hear back about a lesson plan for VE training in the next few days, either in Hebrew or English, I will contact our colleague Michal who is the executive director of WMIL to see if she can provide us with at least a Hebrew version that we can use for inspration. Pine On Feb 22, 2015 2:14 PM, "Vojtěch Dostál" <[email protected]> wrote: > I also wondered if there is a VE-oriented training somewhere. It seems > there isn't - because VE is in a state of flux. > > Because Czech Republic uses VE to train students we are in a great need of > such a training, and are currently asking for a small contract to write a > simple wiki-based tutorial, mostly based on Wikipedia:Training module > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training/For_students> for > students. > > If there is a Hebrew VE training could someone please link it? It would be > lovely to see it, at least to get some inspiration. > > thanks > > > Vojtěch Dostál > > místopředseda / vice-chairman > Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic > http://www.wikimedia.cz > Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR> | Newsletter <http://eepurl.com/FsHJr> > > > 2015-02-22 14:02 GMT+01:00 Leigh Thelmadatter <[email protected]>: > >> I still do not use VE in my training (despite having 200+ students >> working on three campuses) because there are too many things it cannot do. >> I dont have time to constantly play with it to see if it is now good enough >> to use. I will likely not use it until it is accepted by the wider >> community. However, the lack of a viable VE does make scalability very very >> difficult, especially with older teachers who adjust less to idea of coding >> in any form. >> >> +1 on the frustrations for those with new accounts. I understand the need >> for protections with new accounts, but why in the heck does the captcha >> "error" message appear at the top and the captcha itself at the bottom? >> Students only see the red "error" and I have to tell them to go to the >> bottom and its only a captcha. In addition, because we use wireless with >> the same IP address, we get errors when I am having a class move text into >> sandboxes or copy/paste finished articles into the mainspace. Most students >> cant use the move function as they dont have enough errors. Even if they >> did, using it would render the sandbox worthless because of the redirect. >> Add to this trigger-happy bibliotecarios in es.wiki who erase student work >> with little or no explanation, the last two times being wrongly done. >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:55:31 +0000 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Editor training with VisualEditor >> >> On 22 February 2015 at 10:33, Filip Maljković <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It is my impression that the VE should be ideally made in such a way that >> a tutorial isn't really necessary. But I guess we don't live in an ideal >> world :) >> >> That is the "ideal world according to Silicon Valley", not the world we >> inhabit as Wikimedians. >> >> The projects want useful content, and how people write for Wikipedia >> matters much more than how they do on Facebook. The world of no manuals, no >> help pages, no support is not one in which we can easily grow our community >> of productive Wikimedians. >> >> And the way the WMF releases software makes life very hard for trainers. >> >> It is literally true that you need to check the night before giving a >> workshop, with a new account, what the current experience for a newcomer to >> Wikipedia is (capchas, strange messages, moving buttons and all). >> >> I believe the latest WMUK training leaflet takes the VE as a given. I >> know their older leaflet on images mentions it, in a way found confusing to >> a newcomer (as I found - she was a Computer Officer). >> >> Charles >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Education mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Education mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >
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