Hi Ralf,

you requested to add Nigel as junior member. According to our rules,
junior members have no access to svn. If you had requested to add nigel
as medior member, i would have objected also.

My intend is not to flame on the lists. This was the reason i keeped
quied an thought: well, with him as junior member i have no problem, we
can defer the discusson of adding him as medior or full member, as air
in this project is hot enough atm.

I'm realy disappointed, that you make missleading and wrong accusations
about me on the list! I have not left the project! I'm active part of
it! I spend so much hours in coding, the new website, the wiki, the
fourms the list-bridges and so on. Also in the relativly short time i'm
activly contributing code, i allready hold 5% of the codebase. And right
now i want to help in makeing eGroupWare more usable und more stable.
And again, it cost me very much. I do a lot of coding for egw in my
spare time!

After all we reached togehter in the project, i'm extreamly
disappointed, that you treat me now as an outsider and that you don't
care about my opinion on Nigel. You know exactly that i'm waiting for an
apology from him and that i made this to an precondition for working
with him again.

If you remeber the thing we had in the beginning of this year. Please
check the archives and see that i allways defended you and our your
position even thogh i was not of your opinion and internally i sometimes
thought that the accuations you got where right. But I understand it as
a part of being community that we stand together even if we are not of
the same opinion.

I hope that you get my point now and can uderstand why am such gutted.

cu
conny


Ralf Becker schrieb:
> Hi Conny,
>
> sorry, miss your point (beside the accusations with the bucks ...)
>
> Nigel has send about a dozen patches in the area of FMail, egw-pear and
> SyncML. These patches have been reviewed and commited by Klaus or me,
> that is the first stage in our NewMembers document you linked.
>
> Now Klaus and I think he's ready to get commit rights (next stage in the
> official process) and to be added as project member.
>
> That the procedure I followed since that rules have been drafted. Review
> this list and the commit logs, and you will see the announcement on the
> core list always happens at that stage and the new devels got commit
> rights with the condition to negotiate all commit with their mentors
> beforehand.
>
> And before the next accusation comes: making a Nigel a developer is a
> reaction on your announcements, please look at the dates (it's well
> before you/metaways send the announcement).
>
> And for the record, I received no money from anyone before asking on
> this list to make him a developer. What I received from Nigel was a
> bunch of patched, who helped the community alot to cope with the
> problems of the dropped support for FMail and SyncML by it's developer.
>
> Ralf
>
> Cornelius Weiss schrieb:
>   
>> Hi Ralf,
>>
>> it's a shame that you sell your friends and companions for the bucks
>> stylite pays you! You force us to talk about dirty detailes on public
>> lists. The looser is the project itslef, and that hurts me as i
>> personally spend 100dreds of my spare hours to help the community grow.
>>
>> Please realise that we have roules in our project anybody (this implies
>> you) has to stick to!
>> http://www.egroupware.org/index.php?page_name=wiki&wikipage=NewMembers
>>
>> I request you to deprive Nigel commit rights to our SVN if you have a
>> small rest of social braveness.
>>
>> cu
>> (a humanely disappointed) Conny
>>
>> Ralf Becker schrieb:
>>     
>>> As there have been no further objections, I added Nigel to the list of
>>> project members and assigned him commit rights for our svn repository.
>>>
>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>
>>> welcome on board the eGroupWare project :-)
>>>
>>> Please create a developer checkout (see
>>> www.egroupware.org/wiki/subversion) and negotiate all your commits 'til
>>> you become a full senior developer with Me or Klaus.
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to more FMail and SyncML fixes or improvements.
>>>
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>> Ralf Becker schrieb:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I think most of you already know Nigel (one of the managers from
>>>> Stylite) from the developer meeting, he organized last year.
>>>>
>>>> He's quite active in debugging and fixing problem in SyncML and FMail.
>>>> So far I always reviewed and commited his patches.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's time he becomes a "junior" ;-) developer with me as mentor.
>>>> I will add him at the end of this week, if noone objects.
>>>>
>>>> Ralf
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
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