Could it be that egw-core list is not any more in sync with nabble?
And why we are getting answers from lars to mails from manfred but not
the mails from manfred to the core-list?
Regards Lutz
Am 09.02.2008 um 14:30 schrieb Lars Kneschke:
"Manfred Usselmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
You mentioned that you need to postpone this presentation.
Maybe you can give us some more details and explain the situation a
little bit? Have you come across any unforeseen technical issues?
Not yet. So far everything looks promising. We even have the first
customer
who is working on a Tine 2.0 based installation.
Or is
it just a minor delay as a result of the usual time restraints we all
suffer from from time to time?
Yes.
When do you expect it to become ready according to your current
planning?
I'm not sure. At least not this month.
I myself would also be interested to know what exactly to expect from
your prototype. What are your criteria which define the readiness for
the discussion and voting? What do you want to achieve until then?
The longer I have been thinking about this topic, the less sure I'm
about
what we should vote.
Should we vote about which code line to use? That makes not much
sense to
me. Have a look at the pERP and BlueERP developers. They have bet
their
whole application on eTemplate. As long Ralf will not migrate
eTemplate,
these developers can only vote against our complete proposal, as
they need
to protect their investment too.
Maybe we can vote if Tine 2.0 will be the technical base for
eGroupWare 2.0.
That would make sense maybe. As it would allow us to continue to
improve
Tine 2.0 and share as much as possible code in the distant future
with the
eGroupWare codeline.
Do we need to vote at all about the old codebase against Tine 2.0?
We need
to find a way how we can work together. Not to vate against each
other. We
need to find common technical goals and solutions. And that's
something Tine
2.0 is very good for. It's working code. You can have a look at and
learn
how we can improve the old eGroupWare 1.x codebase.
The current codebase of eGroupWare 1.x is broken by design, if you
apply the
standards from today. It was good for PHP3 and PHP4, but compared
with the
possibilities PHP5 (and PHP6 in the future) can provide us, it is just
broken. Any developer can have a look at our codebase, to learn how
we can
make it better.
These ideas don't mean that we fear the vote. If the developers decide
against our codebase, we have no problem with that decision.
What do we like to achieve?
- future-proof codebase
- codebase which uses standard PHP designpatterns
- PHP5 codebase
- unit tests are very important for us
- common rules how to write/format the code
- get the javascript gui done
- database setup
- maybe something more
--
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