Not necessarily. You are possibly confusing RMI interface with JRMP
implementation. The underlying implementation could be IIOP, in which case
an RMI/JRMP server is not in the loop. For example GemStone/J is a CORBA
server, so no RMI/JRMP daemons are running by default.

Then again RMI/JRMP is available in any compatible Java environment. But
depending on the EJB server, you may have to start the RMI/JRMP registry and
so on.

-Chris.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tye, Tim [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 10:06 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: EJB Restrictions-- threads, io
>
> RMI is a part of any EJB server because RMI is used to obtain the remote
> reference to the HOME bean.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Yust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: EJB Restrictions-- threads, io
>
>
> But I'm assuming this EJB/RMI scenario requires a RMI server in addition
> to
> the EJB server.  Why have the EJB server then?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tye, Tim
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 5:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: EJB Restrictions-- threads, io
> >
> >
> > RMI is part of EJB.  It is perfectly correct and legal to use RMI
> > to implement beans that need to perform functions that are not
> > allowed in the container.  The RMI service can be called by EJB
> > (in fact the EJB would not even know it was calling an RMI if
> > coded correctly) and RMI can call EJB beans.  The two are
> > intended to work together.  You are not leaving EJB if you
> > implement some services in RMI.
> >
> > Perhaps some day, some one will figure out how to define a task
> > bean that can do restricted operations.  Until then RMI services
> > are available.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Yust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 5:15 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: EJB Restrictions-- threads, io
> >
> >
> > Kinda like the old saying "if you don't like America, leave it".
> > No, I want
> > to change it.  EJB has great promise, but it's going in directions I
> think
> > is wrong.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tye, Tim
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:24 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: EJB Restrictions-- threads, io
> > >
> > >
> > > Do it.  RMI is the correct answer for many applications.  It has
> > > less overhead, and allows the designer to do anything.
> > > However, RMI does not provide security, transaction control,
> > > caching, or isolation like the EJB container.
> > >
> > > Always use the tool that meets the requirements of the job.
> > >
> > > Don't use EJB just because your management says it is hot.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ron Yust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 2:57 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: EJB Restrictions-- threads, io
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > Wow!  No static methods/data, no file i/o, no threads, no
> > > sockets, no native
> > > code.  Sounds like EJB is an unruly teenager about to take the
> > family car
> > > out on a date.  Geeesh, just neuter the EJB application!  I may end up
> > > sticking with my trusty old RMI server.
> > >
> > > -Ron
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