>Brian,
>
>We went right into the architecture and what was and was not tested by our
>comonents during the Developing portable enterprise JavaBeans BOF at
JavaOne.
>E.g we didn't test say "getHandle" but we DID use transactions AND bean to
>bean calls AND calls out to a web server AND aggregation of components etc.
Glad to hear it. I wasn't pre-judging, just wary since sometimes a little
bit of hype slips into tradeshow environments like JavaOne.
>We will cover this pretty well in our documentation and I think you will
see
>that what we did was to try and create a realistic demo, by creating
>components that you might reasonably expect to use in an e-commerce
website.
>You can judge the reality of this when we get the stuff posted.
Looking forward to the documentation... When and where can we expect it?
>By the way I would comment that simple beans are good beans, it is be
design
>not by accident. If this makes the beans easier to code and hence be
portable
>..then this is good not bad. It doesn't mean this is not a poweful way to
>create distributed n-tier transactional/secure applications
There can hardly be disagreement to your statement here.
>I am not sure how or when we might release the source code.
Well, maybe the documentation you mentioned will have what I'm really
looking for: a description of how should and should not design beans when
you want portability.
>> Is the source code for the beans you did eventually get to work across
>> different vendors available, as well as the DDs? I saw the "deployathon"
>> demo, and I must admit I was quite sceptical about what EJB features were
>> actually being exercised. I imiagine its quite possible to make a simple
>> beans that works across all sorts of different servers, but can you make
a
>> non-trivial one? I'm still reserving judgement until I see the source and
a
>> bit more description of the beans that were used.
>>
>> Brian Maso
>> DevelopMentor Java Curriculum Developer; http://www.develop.com
>> Blumenfeld & Maso, Inc.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 1:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: EJB Deployathon Results?
>>
>>
>> >Jorgen,
>> >
>> >My name is Tom Daly and I was part of the team from within Sun that put
>> "The
>> >Enterprise JavaBeans Deployathon" together. Firstly we are expecting a
>> >couple of articles to show up on java.sun.com and/or the java developer
>> >connection over the next few weeks giving more details of the exercise,
>> >hopefully this will explain it well enough for those who missed the
JavaOne
>> >event.
>> >
>> >To answer your question, our initial goal for the deployathon was to get
a
>> >single set of EJB's working portably (i.e unchanged) across a core set
of
>> EJB
>> >servers. Our target number of servers was 6, we achieved more than 12 !
>> >
>> >Our (i.e. Sun + Server Vendors) intention was to prove that EJB is real
>> today
>> >by creating a realistic e-commerce demonstration web site with EJB's. We
>> were
>> >also trying to demonstrate the huge industry support EJB has and finally
>> and
>> >very importantly we were trying to convincingly demostrate the
portability
>> of
>> >EJB's.
>> >
>> >I believe we demostrated all these things very clearly and I believe we
>> >established clearly the value in not just in the servers we demonstrated
>> but
>> >in the platform as a whole!
>> >
>> >HTH
>> >Tom Daly (Market Development Engineering, Sun Microsystems)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Can anyone shed any light on the outcome of the "EJB Deployathon"
held
>> >> at JavaOne'99 last week? Unfortunately, I was one of the few people
on
>> >> the planet that wasn't there! :-(
>> >>
>> >> There is a glossy write-up of the idea behind the event on Sun's web
>> >> site, but absolutely no mention of any results.
>> >> http://java.sun.com/features/1999/06/ejbdeploy.html
>> >> last modified 18-Jun-1999 when I checked yesterday.
>> >>
>> >> <devils_advocate>
>> >> Should I be cynical and assume that it all went horribly wrong and
only
>> >> proved how non-standard most of the current offering of EJB servers
seem
>> >> to be???
>> >> </devils_advocate>
>> >>
>> >> Does Sun have any plans to produce a write up of the event or the
>> >> results?
>> >> If so, any indication of timescales?
>> >> I imagine the drafts will probably have to go through several
revisions
>> >> to keep all the lawyers happy, so I guess this could take some time!
>> >>
>> >> Further, are there any plans to make the deployathon sample available
>> >> for general consumption, perhaps as a general test of container
>> >> compatibility?
>> >> Obviously most of the Open-Source EJB developments would find this
sort
>> >> of sample very useful if it were readily available.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> For the record, I have absolutely NO connections with ANY ejb server
>> >> vendor, although no doubt this message will prompt lots of <vendor>
>> >> responses :-|
>> >> I am merely interested to here some REAL feedback on what actually
>> >> happened on the day.
>> >>
>> >> - Jorgen
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