I'll agree that even a relatively simple CMP bean deployed to multiple
servers is cool, but I worry about the work building the N different DDs. I
think a description of those also needs to be provided.
Brian Maso
DevelopMentor Java Curriculum Developer; http://www.develop.com
Blumenfeld & Maso, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Doron Somer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: EJB Deployathon Results?
>Actually I had the same doubts and by talking with one of the leading
>vendors they were confirmed. The beans are really quite simple, and I don't
>believe distributed transactions or security were involved.
>
>One thing that was successfully implemented according to that vendor was
>container managed persistence. All vendors used the same relational
database
>and mapped it to the beans persistent state.
>
>I like the idea of challenging Sun to provide the source code.
>
>In any case, even if the beans were not very sophisticated, I think that
>it's quite impressive to see the exact same application deployed on 14
>different products w/o any source changes.
>
>Doron
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Maso
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 2:38 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: EJB Deployathon Results?
>>
>>
>> Is the source code for the beans you did eventually get to work across
>> different vendors available, as well as the DDs? I saw the
>> "deployathon"
>> demo, and I must admit I was quite sceptical about what EJB
>> features were
>> actually being exercised. I imiagine its quite possible to
>> make a simple
>> beans that works across all sorts of different servers, but
>> can you make a
>> non-trivial one? I'm still reserving judgement until I see
>> the source and a
>> bit more description of the beans that were used.
>>
>> Brian Maso
>> DevelopMentor Java Curriculum Developer; http://www.develop.com
>> Blumenfeld & Maso, Inc.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 1:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: EJB Deployathon Results?
>>
>>
>> >Jorgen,
>> >
>> >My name is Tom Daly and I was part of the team from within
>> Sun that put
>> "The
>> >Enterprise JavaBeans Deployathon" together. Firstly we are
>> expecting a
>> >couple of articles to show up on java.sun.com and/or the
>> java developer
>> >connection over the next few weeks giving more details of
>> the exercise,
>> >hopefully this will explain it well enough for those who
>> missed the JavaOne
>> >event.
>> >
>> >To answer your question, our initial goal for the
>> deployathon was to get a
>> >single set of EJB's working portably (i.e unchanged) across
>> a core set of
>> EJB
>> >servers. Our target number of servers was 6, we achieved
>> more than 12 !
>> >
>> >Our (i.e. Sun + Server Vendors) intention was to prove that
>> EJB is real
>> today
>> >by creating a realistic e-commerce demonstration web site
>> with EJB's. We
>> were
>> >also trying to demonstrate the huge industry support EJB has
>> and finally
>> and
>> >very importantly we were trying to convincingly demostrate
>> the portability
>> of
>> >EJB's.
>> >
>> >I believe we demostrated all these things very clearly and I
>> believe we
>> >established clearly the value in not just in the servers we
>> demonstrated
>> but
>> >in the platform as a whole!
>> >
>> >HTH
>> >Tom Daly (Market Development Engineering, Sun Microsystems)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Can anyone shed any light on the outcome of the "EJB
>> Deployathon" held
>> >> at JavaOne'99 last week? Unfortunately, I was one of the
>> few people on
>> >> the planet that wasn't there! :-(
>> >>
>> >> There is a glossy write-up of the idea behind the event on
>> Sun's web
>> >> site, but absolutely no mention of any results.
>> >> http://java.sun.com/features/1999/06/ejbdeploy.html
>> >> last modified 18-Jun-1999 when I checked yesterday.
>> >>
>> >> <devils_advocate>
>> >> Should I be cynical and assume that it all went horribly
>> wrong and only
>> >> proved how non-standard most of the current offering of
>> EJB servers seem
>> >> to be???
>> >> </devils_advocate>
>> >>
>> >> Does Sun have any plans to produce a write up of the event or the
>> >> results?
>> >> If so, any indication of timescales?
>> >> I imagine the drafts will probably have to go through
>> several revisions
>> >> to keep all the lawyers happy, so I guess this could take
>> some time!
>> >>
>> >> Further, are there any plans to make the deployathon
>> sample available
>> >> for general consumption, perhaps as a general test of container
>> >> compatibility?
>> >> Obviously most of the Open-Source EJB developments would
>> find this sort
>> >> of sample very useful if it were readily available.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> For the record, I have absolutely NO connections with ANY
>> ejb server
>> >> vendor, although no doubt this message will prompt lots of <vendor>
>> >> responses :-|
>> >> I am merely interested to here some REAL feedback on what actually
>> >> happened on the day.
>> >>
>> >> - Jorgen
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