> > Concerning the stability issues with VAJ, they're known and also exist in
> > some other VA environments, most notably VA Smalltalk. Expect
> > them to happen
> > (but then, I've had my fair share of stability problems and crashes with
> > JBuilder and Visual Cafe as well) and save your workspace every now and
>
> That is very true. Personally I don't recommend any Java IDE's, and all my
> projects (if they're smaller) we're using simple text-editors (emacs,
> etc...) and command-line tools to do the development.
> The Java IDE-business is simply not mature enough yet.
> (I miss the old Common Lisp and Smalltalk (VisualWorks)-IDE's... :-)
To continue this digression, I have been programming for nearly 20 years,
and even developed one of the very first visual IDEs. To this day, I have
no use for an IDE. I need a good editor, a good shell, and a good make.
I have found that I can run circles around the IDE guys. Contrary to the
common belief that IDEs increase productivity, I find that they act as a
crutch. Thus, your programmers spend time learning the nuances of the IDE,
as opposed to thinking through the development and release process, as you
are obliged to do with more traditional environments. And I have yet to
meet an IDE that did not add more problems than it solved.
I will admit that I like the nice graphical representations of the overall
project and class hierarchy, and I like the graphical layout assistants.
However, I can get both outside of an IDE, and I do not appreciate how
IDEs tend to have to munge my source code. Intrusive and error prone.
Very sorry for the noise.
tim.
Tim Endres [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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